Issue 27 opponent has own fact-sheet
The No Jail Tax political action committee, one of the groups opposing Issue 27, has released its own "Just the Facts" statement. Issue 27 is the Hamilton County sales tax increase to pay to build a bigger jail and fund public safety programs.
Read the statement here.
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Post a Comment*The Issue 27 the Facts document at its best is intellectually weak; at its worst intellectually bankrupt…sound bites without substance and a demonstrated lack of understanding of the issues.
The Issue 27 the Facts document references Corrections Medical Services Inc. (CMS), as an example of “ineffective” treatment. CMS is not a rehabilitation treatment program. It is the county’s medical services provider for mandated medical care for inmates. Perhaps the uninformed authors were thinking of treatment programs provided by respected entities such as Talbert House. The safety plan offered by Mr. Pepper and Mr. Portune includes $500,000 for facility-based treatment programs and $1.5 million for community-based treatment programs. This basic information is on the county website. This is hardly the “millions” referenced in the Issue 27 the Facts document.
There is no “Jail/Prison Industrial Complex” noted in the Issue 27 the Facts document as the county inmates do not stamp license plates or perform other traditional prison industries. It is clear the authors lack even the basic knowledge of county corrections versus state prisons.
Concerning workforce development, find an urban county in Ohio that provides general fund support of workforce development. Workforce investment funding comes from the federal Workforce Investment Act (WIA) grant. See the following website from the regional chamber of commerce concerning workforce investment. The authors should at least get smart on an issue before showing their ignorance.
http://www.cincinnatichamber.com/usaccc_b.aspx?id=46
Adding beds to the jail system is a value judgment and political decision; the need to replace three facilities that are over 70 years old is common sense. These three facilities plus 300 inmates in Butler County account for 1,332 beds of the proposed 1,816 bed new jail. This leaves 484 new beds for growth in the next 30 years. Little-old Butler County has 400 more beds that it needs today…do we call them foolish for building more beds than they needed in 2005?
Since when does diversity matter in professional policing? Who is complaining about the Sheriff’s policing tactics…nobody in OTR. Civilian Complaint Authorities exist when the public loses confidence in the police department and city management in policing the police. If residents do not like the Sheriff’s patrol policies, ask him to take the deputies out of OTR. The sheriff patrols have accomplished more in 6 months than the 1,000 member city police department has in the past 20 years in OTR.
Comparing the cost of a suburban county jail to an urban, multi-story jail is analytically lazy. A more appropriate comparison is to another 1,800 bed facility. Compare the number of beds, the functionality (i.e., intake and arraignment operations), type of beds (males/females, medical and infirmary, dormitory versus single cell). The county’s independently developed cost estimate has been verified by several different design firms that specialize in building urban jails.
Using inlfation adjusted dollars, compare the county's cost to the 4th Ave. jail in Maricopa County, AZ or the Jail Central in Mecklenburg County, NC.
The authors of the document are so shallow in their work that they did not account for all the municipal jails in Cuyahoga County. Hamilton County has no municipal jails. The website below lists every jail operated in the state of Ohio.
http://www.drc.state.oh.us/web/OhioJailList.pdf
If the authors do not want to add up all the jail beds in municipal jails in Cuyahoga County, the following article indicates that there are 40 municipal jails in Cuyahoga County.
http://www.cleveland.com/region/index.ssf?/region/more/1.html
And if the authors do not think Cuyahoga County has a jail overcrowding issue, check out this article.
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5454865/detail.html
Hamilton County's Criminal Justice Commission is the result of the Corrections Review Task Force. Their work will be instrumental in making the most of the new jail.
In addition the Criminal Justice Commission, the county has hired the best firms to work this issue:
Voorhis Associates – Corrections Planning and Inmate Population Projections
Carter Goble Lee – Inmate Projections
PSA Dewberry & Cole + Russell Architects for independent engineering assessments of facilities
L. Robert Kimball & Associates – Independent cost estimate for the new jail
Pogglemeyer Design Group – Independent cost estimate for the new jail
MGT of American – Independent assessment of the operating cost of the new jail
The issue has been studied by the best...
To the authors of the Issue 27 the Facts document, where are your reports, subject experts, or even competent facts?
This group wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the super-sized a-----.LOLOLOL
I mean, just look at their own numbers:
Cleveland has less jail beds and a higher violent crime rate. Geez, if we just use a little deductive reasoning here folks, that would say --- if you don't have an adequate number of beds to house violent offenders - you'll experience a higher degree of violent crime!!!!!!!
Franklin County has the greatest ability to house inmates with the most inmate beds and guess what--- they have the lowest violent crime rate!!!! Imagine that?
Now Lucas County - which has a population almost half of Hamilton County - only has 1/6th the beds and their violent crime rate is more than double the number of beds they have.
Guys, graphic charts aren't working in your favor - it is abundantly clear that the ability to house criminals is directly coorelated to a reduction in violent crime.
Super-size the truth, not the lies
All they can do is criticize the safety plan. They have no solution themselves. They would rather have crime continue to increase than address it properly.
Jail tax opponents - what is your alternative plan? What is your solution to the jail problem?
A plague on the wRong wingnut whackos whom worship idols to jail tax understanding!
PATHETIC 'foley fondling' HYPOCRITES !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 and Little Jeffre!
huh?
Yikes, either nobody reads these blogs or the first commenter put a permanent dirt nap on the fact sheet put out by the opponents of issue 27.
The Sheriff’s Department has much less diversity than the Cincinnati Police Department.
I'd like for you to define "diversity". What are you attempting to say? The Sheriff's Office has less Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, as sworn Deputies? Less Deputies who are bi-lingual, multi-lingual?
If you're looking thru white-black colored lenses (the general definition of "diversity" in this city), I think you'd better go back & look at the personnel rolls again. While you're at it, break it down in # of males, # of females.
The Sheriff’s Deputies are not subject to the Civilian Complaint Authority.
There isn't such an entity as the Civilian Complaint Authority. Again, you need to re-check your information. Cincinnati has the Citizen Complaint Authority, which is only valid within the city limits & only criminally binds the Cincinnati Police Dept.
The Citizen Complaint Authority is a rather weak argument. Its sole purpose is to give an outlet to criminals who are foolish enough to attempt to even up scores with Cincinnati Police Officers & law-abiding residents. The bulk of the complaints are works of fiction anyway. Hopefully, this program will get the axe during City Budget time. It's a waste.
For a bunch of people attempting to sway people not to vote for the Jail Tax, this is a very poor, amateur job. Start over & bring us something solid.
The tax hikers should lead by example and save all their receipts for purchases since the Demorat commssioners passed the tax. then they can ccompute that tax difference and mail a check directly to the county. Then they can keep doing it aftr this goes down in flames.
The tax hikers should lead by example and save all their receipts for purchases since the Demorat commssioners passed the tax. then they can ccompute that tax difference and mail a check directly to the county. Then they can keep doing it aftr this goes down in flames.
Here's a better idea - how about we keep track of how much the county has spent per day housing prisoners in neighboring counties since the "Demorat commssioners" (sic) passed the tax. Then we can compute that amount, and figure out how much taxpayer money we are wasting and will continue to waste. And, to make it even more interesting, we can compute how much money we are wasting arresting criminals over and over again that should be in jail but had to be released because there isn't enough room for them. Finally, we can figure out how much revenue Hamilton County is losing from people moving to the suburbs and from people not coming downtown to spend money because it isn't safe.
You think my receipts will cover all that?
Bottom Line? There is a lot of money sucked up by the pols from Ham Cnty citizens already. We're taxed to the hilt and, unless y'all are rich, we ain't gonna spring for your mismanagement of a ton of funds. Get your existing budget together and figure it out. We voters are just sick of you incumbents, and can't wait to vote you out!
VOTE NO ON ISSUE 27!
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