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Thursday, November 01, 2007

Bortz belt humor

Cincinnati City Councilman Chris Bortz said Thursday he'd like to explore the possibility of a city takeover of independent Cincinnati Public Schools -- or at least a radical change in how the school board is put together.

In response to a question at a lunchtime candidates' forum at the Christ Church Cathedral, Bortz explained his ideas: CPS management would still be independent for all practical purposes. But through a to-be-determined process, the Mayor, City Council and possibly other groups would appoint board members, instead of allowing voters to elect the school board. (More or less, that's how things are done in Cleveland schools today.)

"I think we'd be hard pressed to do much worse at this point," Bortz said.

Then all the city council members left the church and headed to the Underground Railroad Freedom Center to vote on the Banks project.

After they left, school board member Rick Williams, who's running for re-election, took the podium. He'd been sitting quietly in the audience.

"I'd like to begin my speech by explaning why I believe the Cincinnati school board should take over City Council."

UPDATE: As a commenter has rightly pointed out, there's a partisan dynamic to this. CPS board member Melanie Bates and Bortz are both running for Council with the Charter Committee's endorsement. Also, Williams is Charter's choice in the school board race. So it's not just run-of-the-mill political criticism -- it's intra-party criticism.


14 Comments:

at 5:19 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical elitist. He knows more than the voters, who obviously cannot be trusted with something as precious as a ballot.

Wasn't Bortz calling doe closed-door Council meetings last year as well?

 
at 6:06 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

More blah, blah, blah... Daddy and Uncle issues.

 
at 6:49 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Fischer: again you fail to disclose that current school board member Melanie Bates is a Charter-endorsed candidate and Bortz's running mate.

What about Bortz crapping on the CPS while campaigning alonside The Widow Bates?

 
at 9:34 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Typical wRong wingnut whacko, use-less, ****ing idiot of the NAZi party (tnp) spewing the elephant dung propaganda !

Bor-atz wants voters to 'click-their-heels', slaughter the opposition, all for his 'power-grab' !

That should get his trophy wife all fired-up !

PATHETIC HypocRites !

HAD ENOUGH:

VOTE NO, on the 'fanatical five' !

VOTE, for a real, DEMOCRAT 2007 and JEFFRE !

 
at 10:00 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think City voters should get the last laugh on Bore-tz and vote him out. Show him the true power of the public.

 
at 10:03 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bortz's secretary should run the public schools.

 
at 10:33 PM, November 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Christ Church did not invite all the candidates. That was unfair to the visitors and unfair to the left out candidates. I can see why some call for separation of church and state. Christ Church group - shame on you. You should appologize on this blog and explain yourself.

 
at 12:06 AM, November 02, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

And look how well Cleveland schools are doing under state guidance. CPS is doing better than Cleveland - why would we want to emulate them?

Bortz has no clue how schools are doing, as witnessed by his comments at the forum and on the Enquirer blog.Do much worse? Oh yes, we could. If CPS is the best of the 8 urban districts, there are 7 urban districts doing worse.

He's just pandering to the anti-tax crowd, with no actual knowledge to base his opinions on. Surprise!

 
at 10:56 AM, November 02, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bortz hasn't bothered to inform himself about the situation with the schools, so why should we listen to his ideas on how to fix something he doesn't have a clue about?

Williams understands the district. He, along with Cranley, Cooper-Reed, and Bates, have been hampered by a recalcitrant minority allied with an obstinate administration, working together to block change.

Reelecting Williams, with Newell and Blackwell out of the picture, will go a long way to starting the process of reform the Kinsey report recommended. The majority want to talk with the public and find out what is desired in the public school system, then put that into action.

The bickering you hear? That's the old guard fighting reform. Reelect Williams and pass the levy - two ingredients for continued success and progress.

 
at 10:59 AM, November 02, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The forum was for incumbents this time. Christ Church had a forum earlier for challengers.
It was a good idea, I think, to split them up to manageable time frames, giving each candidate enough time to make his or her case.
So quit the complaining - everyone got equal time AND more time than usual. If you didn't go to the first one it's your own fault.

 
at 1:00 PM, November 02, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Bortz consider himself a member of any party other than at endorsement time? It seems to me that he picked a party that would endorse him when he decided to run. Pure expedience, not political ideals, caused him to become a Charter candidate.

So is it really intra-party criticism when the any-party-who-will-have-me Charter candidate Bortz criticizes the former-Democratic-operative Charter candidate Bates?

Bortz is in it for himself, not for any particular party. So his criticism serves himself.

 
at 1:31 PM, November 02, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel Councilman Bortz has a good point. The school board has not done a good job managing the district personnel and money. A board appointed by qualified "elected" officials would by theory be much more efficient. In regards to "emulating Cleaveland schools with an appointed school board", the point is not to emulate but create. Allow for a newly thought out system to be put in place that would make the district not only stronger but more efficient and competitive with many of the private schools kids are attending. The point is let's not be content being better than the 7 other urban districts (as said by another blogger), let's attempt to go beyond districts in other regions. With a good school district, comes economic success for a region.

 
at 2:47 PM, November 02, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one in CPS is satisfied with where we are. But it's not fair to slam it as "couldn't be worse."

There's a chicken and egg thing going on with students, that no amount of messing around with board members will address.

Middle- and upper-class parents don't send their kids to CPS schools because they're not good enough. They're not good enough because the middle- and upper-class kids go elsewhere.

That's not universally true. The oft-derided "pockets of excellence" are good because they have enough middle-class kids to create a tipping point, where other kids see success and are encouraged to succeed themselves.

The pockets of despair are generally those schools with 100% free lunch students who don't have the benefits middle-class kids and their families take for granted.

You don't fight the effects of poverty by voting down a levy and impoverishing the schools. And you certainly don't tear down in order to build up when children's lives are at stake. Unfortunately, I fear that both will happen. And the upward progress will become a spiral accelerating downward at a frightening rate.

 
at 10:40 PM, November 02, 2007 Blogger pavelish said...

Christ Church did not invite me and others to the earlier forum. So the above anon (Nov.1 10;33) was correct. Shame on Christ Church.

Steve Pavelish for City Council www.pavelish.com

 
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