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Tuesday, October 23, 2007

DeWine's Plan B

UPDATE: After the debate the Blue Chippers held a straw poll among those in attendance. The results were 83 percent against Issue 27 and 17 percent for Issue 27.

Commissioner David Pepper said he doesn’t have a Plan B if the sales tax issue fails. But Commissioner Pat DeWine does.

“We’re looking forward to digging in after the election. We have a lot of ideas for what we want to do,” DeWine said Monday night at a Blue Chip Republican happy hour event at Mulligan’s in Hyde Park.

He and Joe Schmitz (standing in for Sheriff Simon Leis) gave both sides of the issue and took questions from the audience. Issue 27 would raise the county’s sales tax increase to pay for a new jail and public safety programs.

So what is his plan?

1) Fix the process issues in the criminal justice system. (He thinks people are held there too long awaiting trial)

2) Stop housing federal inmates at the Hamilton County Justice Center to free up those beds for local inmates

3) Fix up the Queensgate jail and continue to use it

4) House overflow inmates in Campbell County instead of Butler County (Butler charges more per bed)

5) Cut the budget to pay for those extra beds.

“The county can spend your tax dollars on the Film Commission and say there’s no money for the jail?” DeWine said when asked where he was going to find the money. He also referred to a list of cuts he’d proposed earlier in the year.

If either of the other two commissioners had been there, they probably would have given DeWine an earful on his Plan B. Commissioners David Pepper and Todd Portune say there is no money left in the budget to do the things DeWine wants to do. They’ve said his cuts aren’t enough and have lambasted him in the past for never coming through with a viable plan to solve jail overcrowding. Queensgate is unsafe and “falling apart,” Schmitz said Monday. And there is nothing left to trim in the tight 2008 budget.

But Pepper and Portune weren’t there. Many in the small audience were from DeWine’s camp. Among those in attendance:

Jeff Capell and Brian Wise, both of whom have filed separate lawsuits against the sheriff involving the sales tax issue.

Jason Gloyd, spokesman for WeDemandABetterPlan.com

Several other members of the anti-tax groups including Steve Dapper, who has been showing up recently at functions wearing a black and white striped jail jumpsuit.

In addition to the Plan B question audience members asked:

Does the sheriff have to provide mental health treatment?

Why is the plan so expensive?

Were the Baptist ministers offered money to support the sales tax? (Schmitz answered “that’s a rumor as far as I know.”)

Schmitz did a pretty good job filling in for the sheriff. He’s director of the corrections division at the sheriff’s office and seemed as confident as any elected official as he gave the pro-sales tax viewpoint.

He even managed to get in some digs – at one point saying DeWine was giving out misinformation about the tax. DeWine disagreed.The Blue Chippers said they’ll remain neutral on the issue since it’s pitted Republican against Republican.


20 Comments:

at 11:04 AM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

www.dumpdewine.com

 
at 1:13 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jessica:

The name of the group is the Blue Chip Young Republicans, *not* the Blue Chip Republicans. Also, the event was a moderated debate held during a monthly meeting, not a happy hour.

 
at 1:48 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should also be noted that DeWine plans to use the hotel/motel tax surplus to go toward a new jail.

Also missing from this report is a great question asked about the Yes people's claim that this will cost people 10 cents a day. That works out to buying taxable items costing $20 per day, which most people I know spend more than that on a daily basis. DeWine pointed out that last year, Pepper was saying the QUARTER CENT sales tax was going to cost people more than 10 cents a day. So how is an even bigger tax going to cost people less per day? Maybe they know this will drive so many out of the county and so many other people to drive to other counties to purchase big-ticket items.

 
at 3:09 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

cut and run, DeWhine, cut and run -- just like your friend Heimlich.

Cut the programs that we need to serve residents, then run for another office leaving everyone else to clean up the mess after you.

Your not Republican, you're a Libertarian -

 
at 3:31 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

DeWhine has a Plan B? That's absolutely wonderful....

 
at 4:16 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about we change the vote to $.10/day per Ham Co resident. That would cost me & my wife $73/year, total.

I'd vote for that but I WON'T vote for what's on the proposed ballot.

 
at 6:25 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to the County website and read the report on the estimated tax impact of a 1/2 percent increase. Most necessity items are not taxed in the first place (food, medicine, etc.). Get informed before you try to do your own math. If you do not like the work the County has done (which was verified by the UC economic department) then contact the state department of taxation. At the end of the day, folks doing their own math based on limited or no knowledge not only reveal their ignorance, but also mislead the public.

 
at 6:26 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jessica, thanks for coming to our monthly meeting. We enjoyed having you there.

 
at 8:48 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

items which are taxed include food eaten out, drinks, personal care products, household products, clothes, services for your car, really anything found in your house which you can't eat, your car, and anything found in your garage. Oh, I spent more than $20 just at dinner tonight. maybe a bunch of colege students get by on less than $20 a day, but no one elese does.

 
at 11:19 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

DaWhine's Plan B - isn't that the abortion pill you take after you've been raped? A double tragedy.

Sounds pretty much consistent with what DaWhine would support -

DaWhine's "Plan B" proposes that 2 wrongs actually does make a right.

I'll bet that's a Super-Sized, Plan B -- DaWhine's gimmick is one pill I can't swallow

 
at 11:39 PM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So 6:25, what do you expect your yearly contribution will be to the new "comprehensive safety plan"?

I've been to the "County website".

 
at 2:01 PM, October 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

No money? I read they have $100 million for the Banks...so, what else aren't they telling us?

 
at 2:02 PM, October 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda' funny, using the hotel motel tax for a jail. Guess it is a hotel, sort of.

 
at 5:45 PM, October 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

VOTE NO ON ISSUE 27!

 
at 8:27 PM, October 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Portune today: "no one would pay to waste their materials sending their message to an audience that..."

Todd, you're sinking into you own quicksand.

Ham Co taxpayers are paying, by court decree, to send the anti-jail statement. Because Simon crossed the line, again.

If Issue 27 fails (as I believe it should), you & Si can argue about whose fault it was.

 
at 11:50 PM, October 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Latest headline > Sheriff Leis "will allow" mailing of anti-tax news letter.

Simply unbelievable!

If you've been paying attention, details are unnecessary.

Please remember Portune/Pepper/Leis/Deters come next election.

 
at 8:11 AM, October 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is plan A from DeWine? He as been a commissioner for three years...what has he done?

 
at 8:16 AM, October 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Use the hotel tax to build a jail...classic. Hamilton County will be the only urban region in the country that uses a tourism and econimic development funding source for a basic government service.

Furthermore, the tax is only bringing in $1 million annually. How does that finance a $200 million jail, $100 million jail, or any jail?

$1 million will not even cover sending inmates to Bulter County for two months.

 
at 9:43 AM, October 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anybody know who the inbred half wit is that keeps saying only criminals vote no on issues 27. What an IDIOT. Get a life, a job, or a friend to talk to. You need help loser.

 
at 9:15 AM, October 26, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP is against it, does that mean they are all criminals?

 
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