Restrictionists are calling this "amnesty," but they were going to slap that label on anything this side of mass deportation. The public is understandably upset about the presence of so many illegal aliens in the U.S. But there is no evidence that voters want millions of foreign families--many of whom have been here for decades and have American children--uprooted and forcibly removed from the country. The restrictionist wing of the GOP simply wants no new immigration, and "amnesty" is merely a political slogan to kill any reform.
John Boehner, simply put, is killing any reform. He is truly an embarrassment to Ohio.
The Bone-head Boehner is also a Sh**-head. What's the old saying He's got Sh** for brains?
Bone-head can't come up with Sh** in over a decade to solve the problem so he throws rocks at everybody else's plans.
I think he may have spent too much time in the tanning bed and fried the sh** out of his brains.
Come on Bone-head or Sh**-head or whatever - bring forth a bill on your own - West Chester hates all these hispanics and they want you to exterminate them. (Until they need their pool cleaned or lawn mowed)
Boehner is a typical politician. Like all of them regardless of party - he talks out of both sides of his mouth; he's two-faced.
I happen to agree with his " private" opinion ( yeah RIGHT!) on this bill, but he says he " promised" the president he wouldn't bad mouth it. Also, if he thinks it's s**t -- why did he vote for it? He did vote for it, didn't he?
Atta boy, Boehner! Keep the S**T legislation coming! We'll keep lapping it up!
You are obviously very familiar with S**T, because you don't know S**T!
Congressman Boehner has NOT voted on this legislation because the proposal has originated in the Senate. It hasn't even been voted out of the Senate and has NOT been introduced on the House floor.
Get YOUR OWN S**T straight before you go attacking others.
Right-wing ideologues like Boehner are making themselves look like idiots. Check out what Michael Chertoff had to say to USA Today:
McLEAN, Va. — Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Wednesday said Republican conservatives working to block an immigration bill risk endorsing a "silent amnesty" by insisting on deportations that are "not going to happen."
...Chertoff acknowledged that there is "a fundamental unfairness" in a bill that permits illegal immigrants to stay. But trying to force them to leave would be impossible, Chertoff said: "We are bowing to reality."
Then again, reality was never a strong point for right-wingers.
To the person who likes to hold up what Michael Chertoff had to say, who cares about him? He is clearly a traitor who wants to give America away without even a fight. What makes what he has to say even more reprehensible coming from him is the fact that he is in charge of Homeland Security. Why not put a modern day Wilie Sutton in charge of the Federal Reserve? But then again that is probably not such a good example for contrast since the person in charge at the Federal Reserve probably is a Willie Sutton type character. In any case the point is that a person like Chertoff has no business being in charge of law enforcement agencies since he clearly has no desire to do the job, but again that is also probably to be expected considering that Chertoff is Jewish and therefore does not have the best interestrs of the US at heart. He is part of the problem in Washington not part of the solution.
"Most Republicans are not bigots, but most bigots are Republicans."
WTF???? The evangelical Christian right has been the staunchest supporters of Isreal. The Soros/progressive/socialist/communist/lenonist/marxist/ Dhimmi-crat party is supporting "diolog" with the wipe Isreal off the map crowd.
So much for short responses. I had 'anonymous' post on May 23rd which was supposed to immediately follow the "I finally agree with John Boehner on something" post.
By the time it got posted, another comment was sandwiched in....destroying the intent of my original post.
I am a Democrat, but in this case John Boehner is right on the immigration bill, and "to understand why you'd have to live in South Florida."
Why: try going to your local supermarket and see that you have been supplanted by a throng of Spanish-speaking adults.....go to Miami and you are addressed first in Spanish, and it is only when you say (in English), "I don't speak Spanish" that the other person will speak English to you.
But that's not all: here in South Florida there is another wave of illegal immigrants: Haitian-Creole speaking adults.
And so believe it or not when I take a bus "downtown"....the signs on the bus are tri-lingual: English, Spanish and Creole, but the on-board PA system gives the narration in Creole, not English or even Spanish.
Its no wonder that everyone I know wants OUT of South Florida
The cries against "amnesty" for illegal immigrants from the right flank of this debate are even more overheated. My dictionary describes amnesty as an act of pardon. Does that really describe a process that allows illegal immigrants to remain in the country and work but requires them to pay an initial round of fees totaling as much as $9,000 for a family of four; pay a second round of fees totaling as much as $6,000 after four years; demonstrate efforts to learn English after four years and proficiency in the language after eight; wait until the existing backlogs of family and employer-based legal applicants are cleared (a process expected to take eight years); and then return to their home country and pay a $4,000 penalty and a final round of fees before obtaining legal permanent residency?
Even those who would still term that amnesty face the challenge of identifying a plausible alternative. Could the federal government really identify, locate and deport the 12 million illegal immigrants now believed to be in the U.S? And if, somehow, the answer was yes, could the economy withstand the shock of suddenly removing all those workers from hotels, restaurants and construction crews? Opponents of legalization are understandably reluctant to reward law-breaking; but the answer is to demand accountability from those seeking legal status, not to punish ourselves with an exhaustive, expensive and ultimately futile crusade to deport an illegal community larger than the population of Ohio.
...In all these ways, the ingredients have been assembled for a breakthrough. But to achieve that breakthrough and regain control of the borders, the center in Congress must prove that it can regain control of the immigration debate from the ideological vanguard in both parties. If the right derails reform this year because it includes a pathway to legalization—or the left sinks it because of the guest worker and legal immigration provisions—what they will succeed in doing above all is perpetuating a status quo unacceptable to everyone: restrictionists and immigrant advocates, business and labor, church groups and border-patrolling Minutemen. The choice before Congress isn't between an imperfect bill and a perfect one. It's between an imperfect bill and inaction that compounds the problem and heightens the tension on the border and in the workplace—probably for years to come.
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UNBELIEVABLE! I finally agree with Boehner's opinion on something. This Immigration Bill is truly a 'piece of **** bill".
From the Wall Street Journal editorial page:
Restrictionists are calling this "amnesty," but they were going to slap that label on anything this side of mass deportation. The public is understandably upset about the presence of so many illegal aliens in the U.S. But there is no evidence that voters want millions of foreign families--many of whom have been here for decades and have American children--uprooted and forcibly removed from the country. The restrictionist wing of the GOP simply wants no new immigration, and "amnesty" is merely a political slogan to kill any reform.
John Boehner, simply put, is killing any reform. He is truly an embarrassment to Ohio.
Exactly. But to understand why you would have to live in South Florida
Typical wRong wingnut whacko, slinging the elephant dung HTML impersonation of immigration!
When the wRong wingnut Boehner has no ideas of his own, he just assumes the ideas of "LEADERS" like Strickland!
Thanks for playing follow the "LEADER" !
lol, lol, lol
PATHETIC !
The Bone-head Boehner is also a Sh**-head. What's the old saying He's got Sh** for brains?
Bone-head can't come up with Sh** in over a decade to solve the problem so he throws rocks at everybody else's plans.
I think he may have spent too much time in the tanning bed and fried the sh** out of his brains.
Come on Bone-head or Sh**-head or whatever - bring forth a bill on your own - West Chester hates all these hispanics and they want you to exterminate them. (Until they need their pool cleaned or lawn mowed)
Didn't Malia just rip this story off Drudge Report?
Boehner is a typical politician. Like all of them regardless of party - he talks out of both sides of his mouth; he's two-faced.
I happen to agree with his " private" opinion ( yeah RIGHT!) on this bill, but he says he " promised" the president he wouldn't bad mouth it. Also, if he thinks it's s**t -- why did he vote for it? He did vote for it, didn't he?
Atta boy, Boehner! Keep the S**T legislation coming! We'll keep lapping it up!
Hey "alter or abolish" poster:
You are obviously very familiar with S**T, because you don't know S**T!
Congressman Boehner has NOT voted on this legislation because the proposal has originated in the Senate. It hasn't even been voted out of the Senate and has NOT been introduced on the House floor.
Get YOUR OWN S**T straight before you go attacking others.
A or A, no one has voted on the bill yet.
"Republican activist group"- What does that mean? Who were these "activists"?
oops...whatever. They haven't actually voted yet so let me rephrase my rhetorical question: if he thinks it's s**t, why WILL he vote to support it?
Forgive me. I stopped paying close attention long ago. Mistakes were made.
Boehner's language is disgusting. He's a public servant; show some mature leadership.
Boehner's language is disgusting. He's a public servant; show some mature leadership.
Mature leadership from a Republican? That's a laugh. Boehner has about as much class as Bush or Cheney.
Right-wing ideologues like Boehner are making themselves look like idiots. Check out what Michael Chertoff had to say to USA Today:
McLEAN, Va. — Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Wednesday said Republican conservatives working to block an immigration bill risk endorsing a "silent amnesty" by insisting on deportations that are "not going to happen."
...Chertoff acknowledged that there is "a fundamental unfairness" in a bill that permits illegal immigrants to stay. But trying to force them to leave would be impossible, Chertoff said: "We are bowing to reality."
Then again, reality was never a strong point for right-wingers.
Check out John Boehner crying on the floor of the House. What a wimp.
What is it with Ohio Republicans being such crybabies?
awww dude (anon 1:28 PM) .. that clip of Boehner reminds me of my crazy uncle on a drunken crying jag.
To the person who likes to hold up what Michael Chertoff had to say, who cares about him? He is clearly a traitor who wants to give America away without even a fight. What makes what he has to say even more reprehensible coming from him is the fact that he is in charge of Homeland Security. Why not put a modern day Wilie Sutton in charge of the Federal Reserve? But then again that is probably not such a good example for contrast since the person in charge at the Federal Reserve probably is a Willie Sutton type character. In any case the point is that a person like Chertoff has no business being in charge of law enforcement agencies since he clearly has no desire to do the job, but again that is also probably to be expected considering that Chertoff is Jewish and therefore does not have the best interestrs of the US at heart. He is part of the problem in Washington not part of the solution.
Anon:3:30,
I was with you until you pulled the "J" card.
That was dispiceble.
You must be a leftists
"Chertoff is Jewish and therefore does not have the best interestrs of the US at heart"
That is an incredibly bigoted thing to say. You must be a Republican.
Most Republicans are not bigots, but most bigots are Republicans.
Read Politico.com re the time of day Boehner cries.
"Most Republicans are not bigots, but most bigots are Republicans."
WTF???? The evangelical Christian right has been the staunchest supporters of Isreal. The Soros/progressive/socialist/communist/lenonist/marxist/ Dhimmi-crat party is supporting "diolog" with the wipe Isreal off the map crowd.
So much for short responses. I had 'anonymous' post on May 23rd which was supposed to immediately follow the "I finally agree with John Boehner on something" post.
By the time it got posted, another comment was sandwiched in....destroying the intent of my original post.
I am a Democrat, but in this case John Boehner is right on the immigration bill, and "to understand why you'd have to live in South Florida."
Why: try going to your local supermarket and see that you have been supplanted by a throng of Spanish-speaking adults.....go to Miami and you are addressed first in Spanish, and it is only when you say (in English), "I don't speak Spanish" that the other person will speak English to you.
But that's not all: here in South Florida there is another wave of illegal immigrants: Haitian-Creole speaking adults.
And so believe it or not when I take a bus "downtown"....the signs on the bus are tri-lingual: English, Spanish and Creole, but the on-board PA system gives the narration in Creole, not English or even Spanish.
Its no wonder that everyone I know wants OUT of South Florida
Usefullidiot is only half right.
This column by Ronald Brownstein makes some excellent points:
The cries against "amnesty" for illegal immigrants from the right flank of this debate are even more overheated. My dictionary describes amnesty as an act of pardon. Does that really describe a process that allows illegal immigrants to remain in the country and work but requires them to pay an initial round of fees totaling as much as $9,000 for a family of four; pay a second round of fees totaling as much as $6,000 after four years; demonstrate efforts to learn English after four years and proficiency in the language after eight; wait until the existing backlogs of family and employer-based legal applicants are cleared (a process expected to take eight years); and then return to their home country and pay a $4,000 penalty and a final round of fees before obtaining legal permanent residency?
Even those who would still term that amnesty face the challenge of identifying a plausible alternative. Could the federal government really identify, locate and deport the 12 million illegal immigrants now believed to be in the U.S? And if, somehow, the answer was yes, could the economy withstand the shock of suddenly removing all those workers from hotels, restaurants and construction crews? Opponents of legalization are understandably reluctant to reward law-breaking; but the answer is to demand accountability from those seeking legal status, not to punish ourselves with an exhaustive, expensive and ultimately futile crusade to deport an illegal community larger than the population of Ohio.
...In all these ways, the ingredients have been assembled for a breakthrough. But to achieve that breakthrough and regain control of the borders, the center in Congress must prove that it can regain control of the immigration debate from the ideological vanguard in both parties. If the right derails reform this year because it includes a pathway to legalization—or the left sinks it because of the guest worker and legal immigration provisions—what they will succeed in doing above all is perpetuating a status quo unacceptable to everyone: restrictionists and immigrant advocates, business and labor, church groups and border-patrolling Minutemen. The choice before Congress isn't between an imperfect bill and a perfect one. It's between an imperfect bill and inaction that compounds the problem and heightens the tension on the border and in the workplace—probably for years to come.
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