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Tuesday, April 10, 2007

More Council comments on controversial march

Six Cincinnati City Council members on Tuesday met to endorse a motion that directs the city administration to review the city's ordinances on parades and marches. The motion also directs the city to proscribe marches by any groups that use "fighting words" to incite and says the groups should be required to pay for any city costs incurred during any marches.

The motion doesn't mention the American National Socialist Workers Party, the neo-Nazi group that wants to march April 20 in Over-the-Rhine. The group had a permit, but it was revoked last week. A new one will be issued only if the group agrees to march along three blocks of Central Parkway, not in the predominantly black neighborhood.

The group says it'll sue. City officials say fine, bring it on.

Here's more of what council members said Tuesday in their news conference about the motion:

Laketa Cole: "We wanted to just let the citizens know that we certainly understand their concerns...I hope that we do not take it negatively to the streets. It's best to ignore it. We do support free speech," but not when its purpose is to incite violence.

Chris Bortz: "They're looking for a fight. They're looking for a legal fight. They're looking to create media attention...We're going to take the fight back to them. We know no matter what we do, they'll pull us into court."

"They weren't honest about what they wanted to come and say. That doesn't deserve protection."

Each community makes its own definition of what's a clear and present danger, he said. With the 2001 riots and efforts since to heal, he said the racially charged comments being made by the group reach the mark of being considered "fighting words." That phrase refers to decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court that have held that not all speech is protected under the Constitution's First Amendment.

"No matter what we do, we know we're going to end up in court. What's wrong with taking the fight to them?"

David Crowley: "It's an important thing for us to do, as political leaders, to make this statement." He compared the group's epithet-filled e-mails to radio host Don Imus' suspension for calling members of a girls basketball team "nappy-headed hos." Imus' bosses, he said, "realize there's a limit. And that's what we're saying here - there's a limit."

Leslie Ghiz: "We are not here as taxpayers to pay for nonsense like this...And it's going to be a pricey ticket...They made it more than what it had been. They stepped over the bounds of the original permit. Their intent was to incite African-Americans particularly to get upset over this. Ignore them. No one wants to look at this garbage or hear this garbage."

Cole and others said if the march happens, they will organize a peace rally the same day on Fountain Square.

John Cranley also supported the motion, but had to leave the news conference before speaking because he had a committee meeting to go to.

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19 Comments:

at 11:18 AM, April 11, 2007 Blogger usefullidiot said...

Hey Crowley,

How about banning Sharpton for his "Jewing down the numbers" comment??

 
at 1:12 PM, April 11, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised Ghiz isn't marching with them.

 
at 3:29 PM, April 11, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

some things are worth a fight and this is clearly one of them, even if you end up paying a price (suit) for standing for your principles. __ You gotta take a stand.

Now here's a question to ponder -
How can you stand against this group who incites hatred and incites the lowest common denominators of society (ignorant racist) and then go on the Cunningham show where he regularly degrades people, makes racially motivated comments, disparages blacks, women, etc...

Then take this stand - it's time local policians put Cunningham in the shit can - he is no better than these guys and we give him a public voice affecting the views of far more people than this little march.

I call on elected officials to boycot Cunningham - be consistent. It's even worse withhim because he IS educated and continues his rants against women and blacks

 
at 4:08 PM, April 11, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Free Speech is Free Speech, PERIOD !

Our government certainly makes room for the "bush whacko" fundamentalist hate garbage !

They wish to march in "Over-the Rhine" because it is the best example of a failed government ignoring the needs of the "poor" !

Attempts to suppress provide more recognition than earned or deserved !

When "THEY" don't like what you have to say, you too shall be banned !

Some claim:

Hamilton County Republican Party

are fighting words !

The American National Socialist Workers Party appears to be a political organization ?

On the surface, it seems to be a party that no one wishes to attend ?

They should be free to make the invitation !

History has taught us !

The group, the message does not scare us, the blatant attempt to suppress them, "DOES" !

*****

 
at 6:13 PM, April 11, 2007 Blogger usefullidiot said...

The socialist workers party and the NAZI's walk hand in hand. All of the evil of the last centry was generated by socialist/communst/progressives
Wake-up!!

 
at 9:57 PM, April 11, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Wake-up!!..."

The useless idiot needs to WAKE-UP and take a little history lesson on where the NAZI support really came from instead of spewing the elephant dung propaganda !

PATHETIC !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !

 
at 8:41 AM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Free Speech is Free Speech, PERIOD !

Not, it most certainly is not.

"Free speech" does not give you the right to provoke groups of people with racial slurs.

"Free speech" does not give you the right to yell 'fire' in a crowded movie theater.

"Free speech" does not give you the right to threaten another person with violence.

"Free speech" has limits. The fact that you could even attempt to defend the actions of a group like the KKK, who's existence is based in violence and hatred, in the name of free speech is repulsive. And you try to twist it into a comparison to the Bush administration? Are you sick?

People like you disgust me.

 
at 11:21 AM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The useless idiot needs to WAKE-UP and take a little history lesson on where NAZI people,like myself, really came from instead of spewing the elephant dung propaganda !

PATHETIC !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !

 
at 11:35 AM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

NAZI control started on it's roll when media consolidation accured and made it easy for manipulation by a very few......kinda like the telecom act of 1996 that Bubba Clinton signed into law. How about you learning your history Bold Face Putz

 
at 11:56 AM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"....People like you disgust me.
..."

Control freaks, DISGUST US !

What are you afraid of ?

Someone's words !

There is no indication that this group has threatened violence !

No one has defended anything other than "FREE SPEECH" !

Learn the history of NAZI and compare it to the actions of the "bush whacko's" !

Then, take your own "hate" and look in the mirror !

PATHETIC !

 
at 4:40 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeh,I guess it was the Bush "wackos" that knocked air America off the air

 
at 6:52 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we come! Goose stepping down the street, get the funniest looks from .. all the Jews we meet.. Hey Hey, We're the Nazis! People try to put us down! So you'd better get ready ...we maybe comin' to yer town!

 
at 9:26 AM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope the hate-mongers posting here put your money where your mouths are and march in step with the KKK as they hurl their racial insults in OTR. Otherwise you're a bunch of gutless hypocrites. You want to support them? Then get out there and show your faces - show Cincinnati your true racist colors.

What's "PATHETIC" is you.

 
at 2:48 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Now the KKK; I thought it was NAZI's

 
at 4:26 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop arguing semantics. They both stand for the same thing.

 
at 3:26 PM, April 16, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...You want to support them? Then get out there and show your faces -..."

This event gave the Nazis an excuse to act against the thousands of anarchists, socialists and communists scattered throughout the Reich (many were sent to the Dachau concentration camp), thus removing political dissidents. The event was quickly followed by the Reichstag Fire Decree, rescinding habeas corpus and other civil liberties.

Sounds "bush whacko" to us !

PATHETIC HYPOCRITE !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !


 
at 12:55 PM, April 17, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"....Yeh,I guess it was the Bush "wackos" that knocked air America off the air...."

Typical, clueless, wRong wingnut whacko !

Air America is alive and well !

PATHETIC !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !

 
at 2:19 PM, April 17, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

That makes no sense - which is par for the course for you.

The Nazis killed millions of Jews. How in the world can you even attempt to compare that to the Bush administration?

Sick, sick, sick.

And, yes, pathetic too.

 
at 10:01 PM, April 18, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"....How in the world can you even attempt to compare that to the Bush administration?...."

Typical wrong wingnut whacko spewing the elephant dung propaganda !

Whom do you think has, advocated, ordered the killing of Iraq citizens ?

Maybe a lillte history lesson on Prescott may be in order ?

When the clueless attempt to defend the "bush whacko" agenda,

Well, that's just:

PATHETIC !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !

 
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