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Thursday, May 18, 2006

Gay lobby day transcript


Today’s Enquirer inaccurately reported state Rep. Tom Brinkman's position on House Bill 515, the ban on gay adoptions.

Here is a portion of a tape-recorded conversation with Brinkman Wednesday that addressed House Bill 28, which prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation, and House Bill 515, the proposed ban on gay adoption.

Brinkman: “That’s not going to be voted on, too. We’ve talked about them in caucus. They’re just not moving.’’

“And we’re happy about that,’’ said Ted Jackson, president of the Cincinnati Log Cabin Republicans. “In addition to the discrimination factor against gays and lesbians, there’s 6,000 children in the state of Ohio right now that are looking for loving homes. And certainly gay couples can provide those for them.’’

Brinkman: “And again, we talk about conflicts. That’s a big conflict with me because I’m also very pro-life. And I think we should have adoption as opposed to abortion. And we do need to have homes for them. And we have to come up with a plan that helps our adoption situation, because it’s really quite poor in Ohio, mostly because of the lack of finality of the adoptions. People adopt and then six months later the birth mother says, ‘I want the baby back.’ And so they split the whole adoption. I know an instance right in Mount Lookout where a lady went through the adoption – it’s great that President Bush has this $10,000 tax credit for adoption now, because it is expensive. And everything was signed by both birth parents. And then three months later the grandmother of the baby decides she wanted to take care of the child. So she twisted the arm of the birth mother. Birth mother broke the adoption, and the couple had to give the baby back. So the lack of finality is a big problem. You’re right.’’

Jackson: “Bu if 515. If that issue were to escalate, and--’’

Brinkman: “It’s not going to. It’s not going to. OK. OK.’’

Jackson: “But let me just throw something in front of you: Certain members of the House or the Senate decided to do a legislative move to throw it on the (statewide) ballot, could we count on your no vote to keep it off the ballot?’’

Brinkman: “Uhh. I’d say, fine, you could count on it, but ‘cause I just don’t see that happening. I don’t think it’s that big an issue.’’

Jackson: “Right. But we never know. We never know the way things expose(play) out. We know that they are used sometimes as drivers. And we got a big election coming up, so.’’
Brinkman: “This one. I can tell you, we had a big, long meeting with the Speaker (Jon Husted). It’s not going anywhere.’’

Doug Braun, gay rights advocate: “The same language was shopped around in 2005, to folks. They just couldn’t find a sponsor. This time they found a sponsor. So it’s going to keep coming back.’’

Brinkman: “Well, I just know what I heard from the speaker. But you’re right. There might be something next time, next session. But I think this session is pretty dead. Our speaker was actually adopted by--. He certainly has some issues. And we have tried to work with him on trying to improve adoption in the state of Ohio, particularly in the whole idea of the pro-life type of issues.’’

Jackson: “I’m going to have to cut out a little early, because I have to meet with Rep. (Bill) Seitz, but Lynne and Kent (Lefebvre) and I are Republicans and, you know, you’re the tax ax, we love you for that and everything, but we just want you to know we are good, individual liberty Republicans. Less taxes, less government in our lives. Sometimes that also means that, you know, we have to protect people from discrimination.’’


20 Comments:

at 5:56 PM, May 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where, exactly, did this tape recording come from? Who supplied it?

Why is Brinkman consenting to vote against a potential ballot initiative that parallels a bill he sponsored?

Kenny B Moore

 
at 10:41 PM, May 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

the point the enquirer likes to make is that Brinkman is finally giving in to bills that show acceptance of homosexuality, something he's been opposed to his whole career.

 
at 11:04 PM, May 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time Killer Brinkman talking to the gays = Trent Lott's interview on BET

 
at 8:17 AM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is typical for the drive-by media. They knew their story was wrong from the start. Reporting that Tom Brinkman supports Gay rights is like saying Leslie Ghiz is against them. It just doesn't sing.

Thankfully the Enquirer printed a retraction this morning to set the record straight.

We need more people like Brinkman in Columbus who possess a good moral compass, and don't rely on what their belly, or gut tells them to do on important issues.

 
at 9:57 AM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I got from the original article was that Brinkman, despite his blustery rhetoric, is really a softy.

Show him a picture of a gay Eagle Scout, and he changes his position on gays.

Maybe the Eagle Scouts need to show up with a "Vote Yes on the School Levy" sign, and he'll get his COAST minions to back off their crazy assault on schools.

Better yet, if some Eagle Scouts come to his office with Strickland signs, Brinkman will start voting Democrat!

 
at 10:53 AM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hamilton County can be proud. Bob Taft, the worst Governor in the country, is from Hanilton County and Tom Brinkman, the worst legislator in Ohio, is from Hamilton County. No wonder everyone is moving out. Thanks Taft and Brinkman.

 
at 11:05 AM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The gays here represented the Log Cabin Republicans point of view. Tom Brinkman represented the Solid Plank Republicans point of view. I support the Adopt America Program founded by the late Dave Thomas, and want wholesome families to adopt children. Iam sorry but the gay lifestyle is not wholesome.

 
at 11:31 AM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 11:05: Did you choose to be straight?

 
at 11:37 AM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

now i know where my spare tire went.


brinkman = L-O-S-E-R

 
at 12:02 PM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Brinkman is such a sharp dresser!

 
at 1:13 PM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am sorry but the gay lifestyle is not wholesome."

Huh. So most hetero's lead wholsome lives?

 
at 3:02 PM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I propose that we bring a bill to the floor preventing Tom Brinkman from proposing useless knee-jerk right-wing legislation. Ohio has SERIOUS problems and Time Killer Tom is worried about a few gay couples who want to adopt kids. Who cares?! What's he going to do next, propose a bill to ban abortions or to repeal all gun protection legislation?

 
at 4:07 PM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Tom is such a sweet guy. It's good to finally have him on board of some of our issues!!! Yay for Tom!

 
at 4:17 PM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally a Republican with some HEART! I knew there was a reason I liked this guy!

 
at 8:13 PM, May 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that BEER in Brinkman's can?

 
at 12:03 PM, May 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a thought regarding the complete loser who does nothing but ridicule, i.e Tom Brinkman's "spare tire" or his "sharp dress"...

You add NOTHING.
You entertain NO ONE but yourself.
You are a complete lowlife.
Please, go back in your hole.

 
at 1:37 AM, May 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually, i was slightly entertained.

and i think the 'spare tire' focuses attention away from his obvious inability to properly dress himself.

 
at 10:32 AM, May 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was entertained, as well !

Certainly, at the brink-man's sister is optimistic if she thinks she can resurrect the Michelin man from his corrupt hole !

When will they realize, nobody-but-nobody listens to w(R)ong wing nut rhetoric anymore ?

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at 12:49 PM, May 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Baby Huey's (Brinkman's) logic here: outlaw almost all abortion (even in rape and incest) which will translate into more unwanted kids and hence the need for more foster care and adoption agencies. Then in the next breath state how the Ohio adoption resources are in such poor shape! Unwanted kids are much more likely to end up in prison or standing on the corner in places like over the rhine where they are such a drain on society. Will anybody ever dare to discuss practical and objective issues when dealing with this whole abortion question? It just seems the do gooders want to get abortion illegal while ignoring the very real and practical questions of making sure we as a society are well prepared in case this new supreme court caves in and chnages 30+ years of precedents.

 
at 4:07 PM, May 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Face it the w(R)ong wing nuts are not pro-life, they are pro-birth.

If they were pro-life there would not be a child in America or the world that dies due to starvation or the lack of health care.

How do you spell w(R)ong wing nuts ?

HYPOCRITE !

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