Immigration, religion and city politics
Cincinnati religious leaders raise their arms in solidarity during a gathering of the Cincinnati Coalition For Comprehensive Immigration Reform at the Cathedral of St. Peter in Chains downtown Friday. (Photo by Gary Landers/The Cincinnati Enquirer)
Councilman David C. Crowley's domain is more in the secular realm, but he was nonetheless the lead speaker at today's gathering of Cincinnati religious leaders on immigration reform.Crowley, a self-proclaimed liberal Catholic, told a dozen religious leaders -- including Archbishop Daniel E. Pilarczyk -- that he had pushed through a council resolution supporting the more liberal immigration bill in the Senate sponsored by senators John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. It passed, 7-2.
"I just wanted to express a question that floated into my mind as Councilman Crowley talked about his resolution. Who were the other two?" Pilarczyk said in mock consternation as he stepped to the podium. "But we won't go there."
Turns out, one of the two was a member of Pilarczyk's flock: Republican Chris Monzel. (Republican Leslie E. Ghiz, who is Greek Orthodox, was the other.)
Monzel is a Moeller High School graduate and member of St. Bernard Catholic Church in Winton Place. And he once taught Sunday school at Holy Cross-Immaculata Church in Mount Adams.
With all due respect to the archbishop, he said, his vote had nothing to do with the merits of immigration reform.
"It harkens back to the days when then-Councilman Todd Portune put in a resolution about ending the boycott in Cuba. We need to get to the business of Cincinnati and not putting these issues before council," Monzel said. "What's on this city's plate right now is to make it safe and clean and reduce the violent crime that's occurring."
Pressed for a position, Monzel demurred. "It's certainly an important issue, and I've been reading a lot about it," he said. "But honestly, if I were Steve Chabot or Jean Schmidt, I don't know how I'd vote."
22 Comments:
Superficial feel good stuff like that silly resolution are the hallmark of liberal kumbaya government.
Crowley's resolution does nothing but make everyone involved feel good about themselves and helps them unload some of their white guilt.
Now if they could just do something important in council like get something going on the riverfront.
Real solution for immigration can be had in four easy steps:
Force the Mexican governement to deal with the issue by doing everything possible in economic sanctions to make them act to solve this issue. Right now they are going dollars in Mexico from the problem. The Mexican government could stop this overnight if it was in their economic interest. They are not burdened by the ACLU.
Second, we should fine any employer found to be employing an illegal immigrant $100,000 dollars per incident and give a reward out of this collected fine to any US citizen who reports this violation of law in the range of $10,000.
Third, any person found to be here illegally who committs a crime or who comes to the government for support should be sentenced to a jail run by the sheriff down in Arizona who has them out it tents. These inmates should then be put out to employers in the area for cheap labor in critical areas and the wages used to pay for the illegals housing.
Fourth, when these things are in place and show signs of working, then have a complete review of our immigration and naturalization process to handle our needs and to insure that citizens speak our language and pledge allegiance to our country.
Where was Pilarczyk's consternation when Crowley's resolution promoted gays, lesbians and transgendered-- which I THOUGHT the Catholic church viewed as immoral. Or where is his consternation as victims of sex abuse by his priests are being kept from filing suits because they didn't do it as young children. I have more than mild consternation at Pilarczyk's lack of leadership when it REALLY matters.
Which liberal would like to be first to criticize David Crowley for mixing religion and politics? I thought they believed in this separation of church and state.
Mr. Korte, Since you ran this item on religion in politics, when is the Enquirer going to run an article about Phil Heimlich's ties to the Bill Gothard "Cult of Character," as reported in this recent national magazine cover story, which includes Heimlich and Cincinnati businessman Mike Daly?
The state treasurer of Arizona has been the subject of recent news exposes for illegally accepting commissions from the "Character Cities" organization. Phil Heimlich and Mike Daly were entirely responsible for bringing the group to Cincinnati.
Why isn't the Enquirer asking the "Character Cities" organization if any Ohio politicians also received illegal commissions?
Why is this news in a national magazine, but not in the Enquirer?
I have no idea how Crowley keeps getting elected. Perhaps the Archbishop should not be holding hands with Crowley, but rather, completing the paperwork to have him excommunicated from the church for his repeated votes to give gays special rights.
To: 3/31/2006 10:34 PM, Anonymous
Don't count on Korte to report any truth about the (R)wrong wing. He still has failed to report about :
Judicial Appointment of a Money Launderer ?
Opposition to the nomination of Michael Barrett to the Federal bench is growing. While Barrett was chairman of the Ohio Hamilton County Republican Party they were found to have been laundering campaign contributions to a state treasurer's campaign. He had to have been right in the middle of this scam. The news article is below.
Barrett the bag man ?
March 31, 2006
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING POSTPONEMENT
The hearing on "Judicial Nominations" scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary for Wednesday, April 5, 2006 at
2:00 p.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building has been postponed.
By order of the Chairman
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING
DATE AND TIME CHANGE TO WEDNESDAY, MARCH 29, 2006 at 9:30 a.m.
The hearing on "Judicial Nominations" scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary will take place on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building rather than the previously scheduled date of Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 2:30 p.m.
By order of the Chairman
Tentative Witness List
Hearing before the
Senate Judiciary Committee
on
Judicial Nominations
Wednesday, March 29, 2006
Dirksen Senate Office Building Room 226
9:30 a.m.
PANEL I
Members of Congress TBA
PANEL II
Brian M. Cogan to be United States District Judge
for the Eastern District of New York
Michael Ryan Barrett to be United States District Judge
for the Southern District of Ohio
Thomas M. Golden to be United States District Judge
for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
National magazines have real reporters that get off of their asses and report important facts.
City Councilman Chris Monzell obviously needs a history lesson now that he has thrown stones about a Resolution I introduced about a decade ago that he has both misrepresented and failed to discuss in its context as one small piece of a much larger initiative.
But since he has chosen to imply that I ignored serious issues like crime he has surely forgotten that under my watch we reduced the city's murder rate for an entire year to about the the same amount of homicides in three months under Monzell. It was due in part to initiatives I introduced that got police officers from behind their desks and instead placed them on the street; or the addition of police officers via adding several new recruit classes; or to creating the city's anti-gang unit; or to developing an initiative that targeted and made safe the pathways schoolchildren take to and from school; or to numerous other things that I and others did together like introduce and expand community oriented policing, and creating citizens on patrol, and developing the FACT program to target crack trafficking, that all contributed to reducing the city's homicide rate. But then again Monzell is the same city councilman who targeted ice-cream truck drivers as his major crime initiative while the city's murder rate soared.
Perhaps Monzell would do well to get on the backs of his Republican colleagues at the county - Phil Heimlich and Pat DeWine - and tell them to support building the new jail expansion, as I have committed to doing, or to support deploying sheriff's deputies in Over-the-Rhine, throughout hot spot crime areas in Cincinnati and elsewhere in the county, as I have jointly proposed doing with Sheriff Si Leis. Then we'll see if Monzell is really serious about these issues.
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The only thing Mozell is serious about is grandstanding.
He better be careful because his stage is missing a "leg to stand on."
Monzell is going to fall faster then "mad brad" did with his tax collection policies.
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Is Todd Portune even dumber than I thought? I would think the real Portune would know how to spell the name of Chris Monzel. Opportune should get back to doing what he does best - grandstanding on high-profile issues while accomplishing nothing.
Geez, Todd, someone as smart as you ought to be able to spell Monzel's name properly!
Portune is like one of those chatty-cathy dolls that talks when you pull out the string, only with Odd Todd he is able to pull his own string out, again and again and again and again.
Go ahead Todd, relive your supposed glory days on council in an embellished sort of way, sort of like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.
And, you better be darn thankful for Phil and his side-kick Dork, because being in the minority is perfect for politicians like yourself that are much more suited for pontification rather than actual governing.
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The (R)wrong wing nuts are out and running lose !
That is what happens when you privatize the mental health industry !
Monzell(sp) doesn't deserve consideration for proper grammar. When one consistantantly speaks out his a_s, spelling is the least of worries.
MONZELL is so full of "Schmidt" and choking on his own words !
Portune will rescue the county through effective implementation of the hindlick REMOVER !
Good job Todd, torque em up !
They will soon all be off roaders.
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No matter how you look at it it is the United State of America not the United States of the Americas. I would be glad to change it if you are.
If Mexicans and other foreigners want to make it here legally all to the good, let them use the legal means. Let them earn the rights and citizenship not just hand it to them cause they are here.
We, those of us in Cincinnati Change who are Americans who came to America by slavery, have paid the dues, not the 11 million illegals who broke the laws of this country and over 5 million children. They have rights as human beings in their own country, in our country we have plan if they don't want to leave America.
As to the public policy, we have a solution those people will pay the United States $250 Billion Dollars over the next 5 years and we will look to create a alliance with these people. If not then what global solidarity to us have they shown.
Are they going to align with the needs of a America at war, no matter how we got there (by the way show me a way we can end the war without it coming to visit my town any time soon)?
And, if the answer is the racism in our country, have you ever been in Africa? It is where I have lived and then went on to represent an African county diplomatically in the United States, the inter-tribal racism is alive and strong. how can you say Nigeria and Sudan?
By the way we also support employers found guilty of employing those who break the immigration law should be prosecuted. the same with public officials and religious leaders.
N-O-N-Z-E-L
In the middle of the biggest election story of the primary, the Enquirer Blog suddenly goes quiet about Jean Schmidt's resume scandal.
Meanwhile, 700 WLW catches Schmidt Chief of Staff Barry Bennett in another lie, sure to sink his candidate even further, while Channel 9 WCPO has a satellite truck parked outside the Schmidt campaign headquarters to record her implosion for posterity.
Meanwhile, the Enquirer looks the other way, hoping no one notices.
Why? Because they are embarrassed they endorsed her in the first place.
Why is Pilarczyk getting involved in this nonsense? That's fine that he has his personal opinion about what should be done, but his OPINIONS are only opinions. How about preaching the faith and letting the lay faithful best decide how to apply catholic teaching to
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No, the Enqueer has a policy regarding the (R)wrong wing !
Hear, see, speak no evil !
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Krisy Monzealot ?
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Ombudsman, you should read the story in Saturday's paper.
Dewine supports this 100% instead of protection of our country and education of our Kids. Dewine is ready to give it all to Illegal Aliens.
Dewine supporter of Dream Act. Give Illegals In-State Tution, but not the American Citizen. Dewine Supports Amensty.
Warning! US Senate Amnesty bill contains in-state tuition for illegal aliens!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
4/4/2006
Contact: William Gheen, Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC)
WilliamG@alipac.us (866) 329-3999
The controversial proposal to give illegal aliens taxpayer subsidized in-state tuition at American universities is included in the immigration "reform" bill that also contains the Guest Worker Amnesty proposals according to the Washington Times!
Nine states allow illegal aliens to receive the in-state tuition rates, but the law is under challenge in those states and most slipped the provision in with little or no public input. In states where public debate occurred, the measure failed in NC, FL, GA, and VA. In liberal Massachusetts the measure failed by a graphic 96-57 in the House.
"If this bill passes, the American taxpayers will be forced to pay for illegal aliens to replace their own children in the limited seats in college" says William Gheen of ALIPAC. "Professional polls in North Carolina show over 81% opposition to in-state tuition for illegal aliens. It is bad enough the Senate is proposing Guest Worker Amnesty. Now they want us to pay college tuition for illegal aliens!"
Under the provisions of this bill, illegal aliens would be given preference over American students that are required to pay higher tuition rates when they attend public colleges away from their home state. Taxpayers would have to pay for expanded services in universities. Some universities would give even further benefits in admissions and financial aid due to the minority status of the applicants. In-state tuition costs American taxpayers thousands of dollars per year per student.
"American families have spent generations building these Universities." Gheen says. "It is a national tragedy the US Senate is even considering giving these finite resources to foreign nationals that broke our laws."
Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee is calling on all Americans that oppose Amnesty and In-State tuition for illegal aliens to contact every member of Congress and demand they vote "No" on these measures. Contact information and instructions can be found at the ALIPAC website at http://www.alipac.us William Gheen and ALIPAC played a key roll in defeating in-state tuition for illegals in North Carolina.
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