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Thursday, March 30, 2006

DeWine signs onto same-sex marriage ban

Republicans must really be worried. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., is bringing out the same-sex marriage issue again.

The proposed Constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage has been denounced by Democrats as a GOP ploy to divert attention from real issues (the economy? health care? budget deficit? war in Iraq?) by appealing to voters who can't stomach the idea of two people of the same sex who want to settle down and get hitched.

Republicans argue that marriage is sacred contract between a man and a woman, and activist judges who have been allowing same-sex people to wed should be stopped.

The public agrees. In 2004, voters in 11 states - including Ohio - approved constitutional amendments to ban same-sex marriages.

Back to Frist. The 2008 presidential hopeful announced that the bill, of which Frist is a co-sponsor, would come to the Senate floor in June, according to Sen. Mike DeWine.

DeWine, a Republican from Cedarville who is himself facing a tough re-election this year, called the Enquirer because he decided to sign on today as a co-sponsor of the measure. DeWine, who has supported the concept in the past, explained that the bill would go through the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he is a member, so he wanted to get on board.

"People have had a chance to look at it for a couple of years," DeWine said. "I think it’s ripe. It’s ready. Where as before, while I was for it, I certainly didn’t think it was as ripe."

DeWine, who risked upsetting conservatives this week by voting with Democrats on the immigration bill pending in the Senate, said his decision to back the same-sex marriage bill has nothing to do with politics.

"No. I think you’re going to see this issue brought up in every Congress. A lot of people feel very strongly about this issue."

Read the bill (S.J.RES.1) for yourself by searching for it by number here.

Note that Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell, who is No. 2 in the Senate behind Frist, also is a co-sponsor.


11 Comments:

at 11:37 AM, March 31, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a complete waste of time. For a constitutional amendment to move forward 2/3 of the Senate must approve. There are much more important issues to spend time on then this issue that has next to zero chance of moving forward and in my opinion is not needed. Just another ploy to get the conservative right all fired up. Just plain stupid - how about some progress on health care, a 50% increase in the national debt since King W came to Washington, social security mess, the Iraq debacle, stem cell research, ect ect. God I am so sick of all the time spent on these social conservative issues.

 
at 7:38 PM, March 31, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets see, Bush tried to push reform of social security and the Democrats whined and disappeared. We are spending more on stem cell research now than ever before in areas most productive while allowing some evaluation of embryonic research which has yet to produce a single cure for anything. The Iraq war has our troops fighting the Islamists in Iraq instead of the same folks blowing themselves up in our malls. The Democrats have not offered a single look forward on what to do with this war. When pushed, they basically say we cannot afford to lose it and we cannot cut and run. There is no opposition opinion to what Bush plans going forward.

As to these social issues, a society has value only as long as they have a strong social fabric and the social conservatives are trying to keep this in place against an onslaught of folks who never approach a church or have any real relationship with the God we in the USA claim to be under, (One nation Under God) or in whom we place our trust.

 
at 10:48 AM, April 01, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gays are about 3% of the population, their nonBrokeback Mountain relationships have zero effect on the majority of relationships that involve people of the opposite sex. Is it preferable for gays to pretend and enter into opposite sex relationships? Yeah, that is the solution. Or would the Christian Right prefer that we execute them?

 
at 3:18 PM, April 01, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joeh - you must have your head stuck in the sand. Yeah why don't you ask Britain how the Iraq war is keeping the terrorists out of their country. Lets see - 37 people killed in the bus attacks, about a week later could have been more with the 2nd attack if the bombs worked. Jordan got whacked and Indonesia often is getting blown up - yeah the Iraq debacle is really cooling down terror around the world. Embryonic stem cell research is even supported by the Rep controlled house and many Repub Senators including Frist. Social security plan died not just because of the Dems but several Republicans were not on board. The Republicans control both branches of the legislator - nothing has gotten done on Social security. Social conservatives seem to only want to shove their agenda down your throat thru hate and isolating people that don't fit their model of how everything should be. A plan for Iraq - pull back on the sidelines and let them settle their ethnic differences. Our military beat the crap out of Iraq and got rid of an evil dictator - why the defeatist slogan of cut and run. We won big time; it is no longer a war but just an occupation. These Iraqis need to step up and fight for their freedom. How the heck can 20,000 insurgents control the whole country. We have done more than enough; right now we are just beating our head against a brick wall with no end in sight. For people like you I sure hope we bring back the draft so everyone who supports this big debacle can truly show their support by getting their kids, grandkids, ect over there to experience all the big fun. And I just love how you think it is only the Dems against this cesspool adventure - I have been a Republican in the past but W and his admin turned me to an independent.

 
at 5:24 PM, April 01, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys.. this is about Marriage. You know, the social instuition designed to raise and protect children.
Depending on the year, check the Cincinnati Public Schools discipline stats and you will find 80-90% of kids in trouble come from single parent or broken marriages. When the family is in trouble, be it from adultry, drugs or "alternative" life styles, we ALL are in trouble.

Let's go back 3 years and check some of Stanley Kurtz's predictions. You didn't need to be a wizard to figure this out :http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz073103.asp

 
at 9:02 PM, April 01, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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I think everyone should have the opportunity to get married.

Why should gays receive special treatment and be protected against a 50% divorce rate ? That's discriminatory.

If we don't set gays back financially like we do divorce individuals, retirement workers of bankrupt corporate welfare recipients, baby boomers who now have to work longer for less social security, etc. then those humpbacks will be the top 1% and get all those tax breaks and federal handouts.

We will then be forced to sign legislature mandating interior decorators.

Protect yourself, vote yes on gay rights.
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at 11:01 PM, April 02, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The argument against gay marriage is that all societies for thousands of years have not allowed this relationship. Why is it in the last few years, suddenly this lifestyle is normal?
Second, what is to prevent this "right" from being abused by every other so called relationship? How could you stop a state-sanctioned polygamy relationship or one that involved family members? The argument some make is for the right to gay marriage is benefits. What about two sisters that live together.

Societies strength have come from solid family relationships and the overall attack on families over the last 40-50 years has been constant as has the attack on God in our public square.

Joe said "values of freedom and equality on which our nation was founded. Those values: that you get to live your life the way you choose, and I get to live my life how I choose, so long as my choices don't affect you."
I think to look at freedom without responsibility to the overall values of a society is what has moved our country in the wrong way and created the growing movement to stop this type of thought by conservatives. If it feels good, do it started in the 60's and has had tragic consequences. Drug users have the same argument but we all know the impact on society with drugs. Smokers have lost rights over the years. Why, because of the cost for healthcare and because of second hand smoke. How about the impact on society for aids which is huge in the homosexual community? What we do impacts soceity in many ways. Divorce hurts our kids dramatically. That is a proven fact. Kids being raised by a single parent hurts kids. Abortion certainly hurst kids and the moms.
Societies are formed by those willing to pay a price for the good of the overall society, not to "you get to live your life the way you choose, and I get to live my life how I choose, so long as my choices don't affect you." Chices we make impact everyone in many ways.
Give me a reason that for the first time in the history of man, society should throw out everything we have held sacred about marriage between a man and a woman and then tell me how you would leagally block others in different relationships from access to the same. When we are done with all these new relationships, marriage will have no meaning or value.

 
at 11:34 AM, April 03, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joeh - forget the marriage concept or keep it reserved for all the do gooders in the world. But allow gays to have a civil union that has all the benefits of marriage in terms of property ownership, inheritance, health care issues, ect. And I just do not buy your comments on attacks on famalies and attacks on god. You and many social conservatives are just plain paranoid - there is no organized attack on famalies or god. I am a christian but I do not need the 10 commandments plastered all over in public. You have to keep religion and the public separate; or the alternative is if you allow some religion in public then you must allow all religions in public. So if a school or court wishes to post the 10 commandments or bible verses, ect ect than all religions should have the same right to post their beliefs right next to the more common ones. So if a group believes in a golden cow or whatever they should be allowed to post their rules or commandments then too.

 
at 9:58 PM, April 03, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Absolutely, in a nation formed on the concepts of separation of church and state any religion is free to worship as they choose !

The problem arises with self indulged arrogance of a religious sec who has formed the bases for the way and provides a code of conduct (ten commandments for example) and then thinks the government should promote their agenda.

The fact that I am a Christian, I can finger point with authority and present that separation of church and state is no different than "Give unto Caesar."

The church has the responsibility to promote their concepts to the people. The government has the responsibility to protect those who may worship as they choose, even if their views are the minority.

I think this city certainly promotes flying pigs more than they promote your so called values. Why ?

The dollar, that man made illusion of value, is more sacred than your so called god !

My god has open hands !

My god knows all and loves all !

My god created all, so that we may learn !

My god walks with the prostitutes and says he who is without sin let him cast the first stone !

You value your arrogance more than enlightenment !

God bless you and anyone with the ability to share a mutual love for one another !
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at 5:23 AM, April 05, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This a ploy to get the minds off Dewine's and other Senators main objective. The Screw American Citizens Amensty of Illegal Aliens bill.

Vote against Dewine.

 
at 12:33 PM, April 05, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The simple truth is that gay couples do have "marriages" or "unions" or "commitments" that are only dissimilar from heterosexual marriages by the fact that they are not given the same legal rights. A marriage ban will not change that. Gays will continue to have the ceremonies and will live next door to you, raising their own children, and living as if they had the same rights you do. They go to your churches, they teach your children, and they take care of you in hospitals. You will not change this behavior, because it is within the genetic makeup of these individuals. Banning marriages in our country will do nothing except eliminate the necessity of these relationships ending in a divorce court. DeWine is just trying to get reelected by attracting the close-minded members of our society.

 
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