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Friday, May 02, 2008

Ohio JFS: You Owe $134.5m

The Ohio Department of Job and Family Services said in a report released Friday Hamilton County should repay $134.5 million in state and federal funds.

The county, of course, completely disagrees. The ordeal stems from an audit released in 2006 accusing the county's Job and Family Services Department of commingling and misspending federal money.

Read the report here.


at 7:31 PM, May 02, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...


Once again we are more concerned with sexy Dem's, then we are with the 'take the money and run','culture of corruption' !

All this while the wRong wingnut whacko da da da whining, hindlick was in control and giving away county assets !

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !


at 10:44 PM, May 02, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry bold-type-guy, this was a bi-partisan heist. Remember when Heimlich first entered office, the first thing he did was enlist DeWine and Portune (in his Drake hospital bed even!) to fire Krings? IMHO, Krings was singing to the state and/or to the feds.

Also look at Suzanne Burke (who fled government employment when this was heating up) and Tricky Dick Weiland, longtime Talbert House "supporter" and everybody's favorite frumpy bagman. Heimlich was just his puppet. (Gasp, quelle surprise....)

at 1:23 AM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous CincyJeff said...

Foot-tapping bold typist,

The audit covered the years 2001-2004. Heimlich didn't become a Commish until Jan 2003, midway through these years.

Todd Portune, however, has been a Commissioner since Jan 2001. Where was Todd Portune when this was happening?

at 7:35 AM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was any of this money used to support citylink groups such as Lords Gym and city Gospel? These programs bring felony convicted excons from state and federal prisons to downtown Cincinnati.

at 11:19 AM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The audit covered the years 2001-2004. Heimlich didn't become a Commish until Jan 2003, midway through these years."

It doesn't take a wRong wingnut whacko long to **** things up when the 'culture of corruption' is inbred, Now Does it !

Name the high ranking officials at OJFS that are Dem's ?

Now, those that are members of the 'culture of corruption' ?

Only the wRong wingnut whackos are great at 'commingling and concealing funds', PERIOD !

Just ask Michael Fox where he got his home loans or where his wRong wingnut crony hid her income from tax preparations ?

Nuff said. We prove our point !

PATHETIC 'family values' !


at 11:58 AM, May 03, 2008 Blogger Mark Miller said...

Where was Mr. Portune?!? That's easy. He was up to his neck in this and saw it coming a mile away. That's why he needed a $700 million tax to pay for a $200 million jail.

By shifting all law enforcement expenses to the tax, general fund dollars would become available to pay back this fraud, the prosecutor's sexual harrassment settlement, and the settlement for the "Body's Exhibition" at the coroner's office. Plus, there would still be enough of a slush fund left over to tinker with all sorts of wasteful liberal social engineering experiments.

The voters are rightfully holding politicians' feet to the fire for their spending. Mr. Portune et al. should adopt the same strategy and start aggressively recovering ill-gotten gains from JFS. Fortunately for the taxpayers, their current deficit makes it impossible to let this fisco just slip under the rug.

at 1:07 PM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Mark Miller said...Where was Mr. Portune?!? That's easy. He was...rightfully holding politicians' feet to the fire for their spending. ...aggressively recovering ill-gotten gains from JFS. Fortunately for the taxpayers...11:58 AM, May 03, 2008"

No matter how much wRong wingnut whacko elephant dung is spewed from the miller farm, the voters smell a right wing skunk !

The 'culture of corruption' is headed down the river in chains like 'blackwell' !

Once again, it's XXX judge Tryintofoolyou !

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !


at 1:44 PM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:31 Sexy Dems??? Don't think so from the pictures. Adulterous Dems maybe, but not sexy.

at 3:48 PM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The foot-tapping Bold Typist goes for the fat ones.

at 9:21 PM, May 03, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget this statement, Jones-Kelley acknowledged her agency, under its previous administration, bears some responsibility for allowing the county's books to get so off-track. It was supposed to be making sure the county was following the correct procedures.

Except for Kelley the same administration is still in place just re-shuffled a bit. The problems in social services is a direct result of the incompetence
that goes uncheck in the state government. The bureaucrat that run this state do not answer to anyone.

at 11:19 PM, May 03, 2008 Blogger Mark Miller said...

I think I finally figured it out!
The 1st person plural voice...
The cryptic circumlocutions...
The ingenious alliterations...
The manic obsession with Rs...
The persistence in arguments...
The preciousness of DemocRats...
The foot-tapping bold typist is...
GOLLUM from Lord of the Rings!
Scary, but nothing else fits.

at 12:26 AM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...The foot-tapping Bold Typist goes for the fat ones. 3:48 PM, May 03, 2008"

Unlike the wRong wingnut whackos, we only love the ones that say, YES !

Always look at the parents, kidies !

The worst we ever had, was WONDERFUL !

at 12:32 AM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...goes for the fat ones. 3:48 PM, May 03, 2008"

They're so easy to pick-up at the young-dung club meetings !

at 10:28 AM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask Mark Dann about the culture of corruption anon 1:07.
HAD ENOUGH DEM (and Dann) vote '08

at 4:28 PM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Facts, if they matter:

The co-mingling of funds was created as a shell game for government entities to meet state and local "matching dollars". (The feds give you $10 the state throws in $3, the county throws in $1 is how this systeme works. In exchange for the fed funds, the state and county agree to not only "match" with their share, but to follow the fed laws of the program)
So, almost 20 years ago, the administration devised this shell game to reduce their "share" on paper. The state promoted this accounting scheme and was required to do the monitoring to make sure they and the counties were in compliance with fed law so that the fed share wouldn't have to be paid back.
As all the corruption in Columbus was exposed, it was also discovered OHio used this shell game and the feds ordered the state to pay back the share they never met. Ohio, in turn, didn't want to pony up all that money so they went to the counties who they knew, and had helped, do the same thing. Play shell games with matching funds.
Hamilton County, one of the those in the corruption-sphere, was the biggest offender here. So, here they come. And tag the county for what had been going on for nearly 2 decades: a process established by that administration and the former JFS director.
The reason those years are targeted is because the statute of limitations for recovery had passed for the decade + before, so the state couldn't go back further.
NO administrative or fiscal decisions were ever made by Heimlich, Portune, Pepper, or DeWine that caused this problem - they inherited the shell game scheme from their predessors: Deters, Neyer, Bedinghaus, Thomas, Krings. Truth be told, they had no knowledge until after the fact - and like our economic woes and all the corruption that had been occurring in Hamilton County - most had no power to fix it.
Leave it to a new bocc to dig us out of the numerous fiscal and legal messes - a "dig" that should've started when Heimlich came on board and then DeWine - instead they decided to cover for their predesessors and the digging out and paying back is now coming to the forefront.
You want to blame someone - talk to Taft, Voinovich ... Deters and Krings and the BOCC that has been vanished by voters (By the way, I don't think Dowlin had any knowledge of these schemes going on - they kept him out of the loop)

at 7:22 PM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous CincyCapell said...

This is the result of 30 years of GOP control of County government.

at 8:40 PM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The foot-tapping Bold Typist goes for the fat ones.

at 10:03 PM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

When was Deters a County Commissioner?

And when you're talking about administrations' practives at the state and federal level, does that not include Governor Celeste and President Clinton, both Democrats? Or do these things somehow go underground when Democrats take over, only to be revived when the next Republican comes in?

at 10:12 PM, May 04, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Mark Miller said...I think I finally figured it out! ...bold typist is...Lord...nothing else fits. 11:19 PM, May 03, 2008"

Blessed are those whom have chosen to FOLLOW: 'bold endeavors' !

Careful, you can be reversed engineered !

So, when will you get your sanity back ?

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !


at 9:53 AM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The past fat cat adminsitrator was at the center of all of this problem with the State and JFS. And the killer is he's still getting fat(ter) off of the County with his other contracts with the Lincoln Heights, Newtown's etc. within Hamilton County. Not to mention how much money it cost the County to buy him out. He has been playing a shell game with Hamilton County's money since 1992.

at 10:30 AM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:53, that would be the same administrator Heimlich worked to get out of there, and who the liberals all defended, right?

at 11:18 AM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people miss the point: money was all spent on Hamilton County families and children. There was NO fraud. The state admits this. There was no shell game. Because the spent money doesn't fall in the right "category" on an accounting ledger, taxpayers should have to pay it back to a government that will just turn around and use it for public purposes elswhere? The state should walk away from this and be happy the county is achieving its mission of helping the needy.

at 11:24 AM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now Now Boys (girls) on my watch there were no budget problems and nobody got laid-off! I didn't have a problem with money period.

at 2:53 PM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

No it doesn't include Celeste, and the federal administration that started digging into state's screwing with the federal funding was under that idiot, Clinton. (It takes years for an issue to go from inquiry, to investigatioin, to proof, to re-payment - so what happens, and happened here - it looks like the Bush administration came after Ohio - but, in actuallity, it was carry over from Clinton the freak. I mean, if you want the truth on how this stuff works. Enforcement of fed regs always attacks states who are the opposite party of the federal administration. Always.)

As to Deters? Who do you think was the BOCC's legal counsel during this period? And when the issue was raised a couple years prior to discovery of the problem, Deters' office opined
with Krings and Thomas in the wing, that what the county was doing was legal. Deters was either ignorant or complacent to the scheme.

Krings, yep. He was in on it. But Heimlich and DeWine, during their tenure as the majority and bearing the power, didn't remove Krings for this, they removed him for fighting them on implemented OBVIOUS improprieities like bringing COAST into county government. (You're suppose to do these crooked things quietly, not in the public eye) Never once did Heimlich or DeWine denounce Krings under-handed techniques.

People have asked: how could this have gone on so long without the state auditor finding it? Like the feds, they only investigated counties who were headed by the opposite party than the one in power. Hamilton County was always given the wink and nod - that's why the state isn't denying that they contributed to the problem.

at 3:04 PM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry folks, the money wasn't all spent on "the kids", the money was LIKELY (no one has figured it out yet) retained by the county to fund the Bengals Stadium. Only the money put in the pot was spent on "the kids" - the question is, how much money did the county administration keep - over the years that was legally required to be spent on "the kids" - to fund corporate welfare instead of children's welfare?

The state appears to be contending that in that brief period, the county kept about 125M that is due to the children of Hamilton County and should have been spent to protect them, shelter them, reunite them with their families, provide services to those families to retain them,....

at 4:44 PM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3:04: You are wrong. Simply wrong. Read the ODJFS Director's quotes on the subject. All of the money went to Hamilton County children and families. None of the money went for stadiums, as you allege. The FBI investigated this too....no criminal charges. This is a dispute over accounting practices, not fraud.

at 5:12 PM, May 05, 2008 Blogger Mark Miller said...

Weren't Enron and Worldcom just "disputes over accounting practices" too?!? That's what fraud is, manipulating the books to the advantage of one party at the expense of another.

at 5:30 PM, May 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The report says, and I don't dispute, that all money deposited into the various accounts was spent on "the kids." The question is, if the county was playing a shell game with their mandatory "share", switching it from one pot to another to another, to give the appearance of meeting their matching funds for each program - then, in fact, they were merely shifting the same money over and over, here to there, here to there - instead of fully funding each program.

Now, if the county didn't use general fund monies - as required to pay their fair share of matching funds, and they kept it in the general fund - what program got the extra money? The Bengals, ala Bedinghaus???

The FBI couldn't make a fraud case because the money wasn't transfered to the Bengals' Stadium Fund, it stayed in the general fund - which happened to pay for the stadiums (in addition to other programs - the Bengals being the special interests of the day.)

But no, there was no prima facie case of fraud. Yes, this was an accounting method problem. And yes, it resulted in less money appropriated and used for "the kids" than was mandated under law..

Frankly, I don't think of of this money is due to the state or feds - it is owed to "the kids" who were not served, who languished in foster care, who suffered abuse, who did without because this "accounting problem" (scheme), denied them services they had a right to under the law.

Instead of the county paying money back to which they failed to provide "matching funds" why don't they just pay their share of the "matching funds"? - Oh yea, the accounting was so screwed up on expenditures that they can't even tell what the money was spent on.

That's my catch on it - could be wrong - but, doubt it.

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