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It's the last weekend of the campaign.
What are your predictions for city council, CPS levy, and the sales tax?
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Post a Comment*If you talking about the jail tax...how oft do we citizenry gotta put up with this rule by a few?
Elections are for the people to speak.
If we vote no, then, that should be it.
In that it is reported that the big bucks donors have exceeded by thousands that of the opposition only it remains to be seen who will vote, where, when, and how?
What part of No do not our politicians understand?
Helllooo??????
Cranley
Qualls
Winburn
Crowley
Bortz
Monzel
Thomas
Cole
Cooper
Issue 22 and Issue 27 fail with room to spare. Simon Leis has another meltdown.
Mental Health will win as will Elderly Services.
I think the Safety plan will win but I am not sure about the School Levy.
Council (in order):
Cranley
Crowley
Cole
Bortz
Qualls
Ghiz
Winburn
Fischer
Berding
School levy won't win but will when it's back on the ballot in March.
Mental health and Elderly services will win.
Council in Order:
Cranley
Crowley
Qualls
Bortz
Ghiz
Winburn
Fischer
Cole
Berding
Real story of the weekend? This is the nastiest at-large Council race in years.
Cranley
Cole
Qualls
Crowley
Ghiz
Bortz
Berding
Eby
Harris
Cranley
Crowley
Thomas
Harris
Cooper
Young
Garry
Jeffre
Eby
Jail Tax fails!
School Tax Fails!
Mental Health Passes!
Cooper
Winburn
Garry
Malone
Monzel
Harper
Crowley
Bortz
Berding
Does anyone know what in the heck happened to Melanie Bates' campaign? I thought she was a shoe-in and now she might not make top 15.
CPS will pass, only because people who rent will put it over the top.
Jail levy will fail largely due to suburban voters who figure the jail is a city problem.
Council, Cranley, Crowley, Ghiz,
Winburn, Monzel, Fischer, Borty, Thomas, Qualls
Mental Health & Elderly pass.
Council:
Cranley
Bortz
Qualls
Berding
Ghiz
Monzel
Winburn
Fischer
Thomas
Those walking home: Cole, Boy Band Jeffre, Property Baron Patton
School levy fails.
Jail levy fails.
Mental health levy fails.
Elderly levy passes.
Eve Bolton is elected to the school board.
Fred Flintstone & Mike Brown ... on write-in votes.
Cranley
Qualls
Winburn
Crowley
Cole
Monzel
Bortz
Harris
Ghiz
10=Thomas
11= Eby
12= Bates
13= Pavelish
14= Berding
Schools-- fail
Jail--- fail
Mental Health- pass
Seniors-- pass
Loss for Winburn
Loss for Malone
Comprehensive Safety Plan passes
Mike Harlow goes 0-3 to run his lifetime record to at least 0-15.
When are the people at 700 Walnut and the people in the Cow Chip Young Reactionaries going to stop listening to this fat-ass, lazy-ass, unemployed jerk mooching off his wife?
why do you people think cecil thomas is out? he'll be in the top 7.
To anon #1 (11:37 Am)
"What part of No do not our politicians understand?"
They understand that if they don't find some way to get this done, a court will order them to do it and the voters will have no say at all.
You have your choice - jail space alone - or jail space with mental health evaluation, treatment progams, GED programs for inmates, efforts to reduce how many people come back through the system.
Which do you prefer?
If you think by defeating this it won't happen and the "voters have spoken," think again. You are dead wrong.
And if you defeat this, it will be atleast another decade before anyone will venture down the intlligent road again.
Is that what you really want?
Cranley
Qualls
Winburn
Crowley
Cole
Monzel
Bortz
Harris
Ghiz
Who else saw how Dem Party Boss Tim Burke is still trying to convince Dem leaders that Jeff Berding is a "loyal" Dem, then Berding announces that he wants to see incumb Repubs and Charters return to Council?
1. Qualls
2. Cranley
3. Crowley
4. Cole
5. Bortz
6. Harris
7. Thomas
8. Winburn
9. Young
10. Ghiz
11. Monzel
12. Pavelish
1. Qualls
2. Cranley
3. Crowley
4. Winburn
5. Cole
6. Bortz
7. Ghiz
8. Monzel
9. Fischer
Issue 22 fails
Issue 27 passes
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Little Jeffre
Think about it!
Pa Pa Pa Please !
VOTE, for a real, DEMOCRAT 2007 and LITTLE JEFFRE
Council:
1. Cranley
2. Crowley
3. Qualls
4. Cole
5. Winburn
6. Bortz
7. Ghiz
8. Thomas
9. Harris
10. Berding
11. Monzel
12. Cooper
13. Fischer
14. Bates
15. Painter
16. Eby
17. Kaup
18. Young
19. Malone
20. Garry
21. Harper
22. Jeffre
23. Pavelish
24. Zamary
25. Patton
Council:
Cranley
Crowley
Ghiz
Qualls
Bortz
Cole
Berding
Eby
Thomas
Save yourselves VOTE www.powrpac.org
Anon 6:59; You really think Jeffre will win?? I want some of whatever you've been smoking!!
Five councilmembers – Jeff Berding, Chris Bortz, Laketa Cole, Leslie Ghiz and Chris Monzel – forged an alliance at City Hall during the budget in December. They call themselves The Fiscal Five.
There are a lot of questions about who these people are and what they have ever accomplished.
After reviewing the public record of news reports, we have compiled a trivia test to help better inform the electorate on the facts of The Fascist Five.
True or False
1. When Cincinnati Enquirer columnist Peter Bronson named the coalition The “Fiscal” Five, he had not even seen a copy of their budget proposal, but relied on their rhetoric as fact.
2. The Fascist Five held a press conference on their budget proposal, but refused to give the press a copy, saying they would present it at the start of the finance committee that day. It turned out they never planned on presenting their budget to the finance committee.
3. The Fascist Five made up letterhead to send out announcements to the press.
4. The Fascist Five said Sheriff Leis was for a plan to spend millions on temporary “tent” jails even though Leis publicly said he was against them and would not operate one.
5. The Fascist Five told certain groups that they wanted to shut down health clinics, but told other groups that they were against closing health clinics.
Multiple Choice
6. Who is the leader of The Fascist Five?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
7. Which Fascist Five member first told the press that the group planned to shut down two-three health clinics?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
8. Which Fascist Five member told the press that the group wants to end the City’s commitment to giving human services and instead make a smaller contribution to The United Way so they don’t have to hear anymore “protests” by the people?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
9. Who first reported that The Fascist Five was plotting to get revenge on Mark Mallory, David Crowley, and John Cranley for the budget by attacking the Mayor’s appointments even though every Fascist Five member voted for it?
a. Dan Klepal
b. Kevin Osborne
c. Joe Wessels
d. Greg Flannery
e. Nate Livingston
10. Which Fascist Five member was caught by the press for looking over the shoulder of Cecil Thomas drafting a motion, “then quickly circulated his own version”?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
11. Which Fascist Five member tried to steal jurisdiction of the Quality of Life Index from Cecil Thomas Law Committee and put it in the Rules Committee?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
12. When The Fascist Five went to Westwood Concern who did Republican Pete Witte say could be the next Republican nominee for mayor?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
13. Which Fascist Five member violated the City Charter and ordered a department head to ignore a city council vote and hold-up the contract of the Cincinnati Human Relations Commission?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
14. Which Fascist Five member endorsed Republican candidate John Eby for Council at a Westwood Concern meeting even though he or she claims to be a Democrat?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
15. According to polls released to the media who is the most likely Fascist Five member to lose his or her seat this November?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. None of the above
Extra Credit
Which Fascist Five member says that Karl Rove is his or her role model?
a. Leslie Ghiz
b. Chris Monzel
c. Chris Bortz
d. Jeff Berding
e. All of the above
Answers:
1. True (Cincinnati Enquirer, Surprise: frozen-turkey budget might fly, 12-19-06 & Cincinnati Enquirer, Council shuts down over budget, 12-18-06 & Cincinnati Post, Budget process turns to sniping, 12-19-06)
2. True (Cincinnati Enquirer, Council shuts down over budget, 12-18-06 & Cincinnati Enquirer, Council conflict snags budget, 12-19-06 & Cincinnati Post, Budget process turns to sniping, 12-19-06 & Cincinnati Post, Sterne warning: The poor matter, 12-20-06)
3. True (Cincinnati Enquirer, Footnotes)
4. True (Cincinnati Post, Sheriff Leis pokes hole in ‘bubble’ jail, 01-18-07)
5. True (Cincinnati Herald, My viewpoint of the city budget, (Cole) 01-13-07 & CityBeat, Budget Showdown Could Prompt Veto, 12-19-06 (see Bortz’s blog comment) & CityBeat, Health department at center of city’s budget clash, 12-20-06 & Cincinnati Enquirer, Grim forecast for Cincinnati’s budget, 12-19-06 & Cincinnati Post, Sterne warning: The poor matter, 12-20-06)
6. D. Jeff Berding (CityBeat, Berding’s Big Fat GOP Bash, 02-14-07 & Cincinnati Enquirer, Council conflict snags budget, 12-19-06 & Cincinnati Enquirer, Finally, a city budget, 12-22-06)
7. A. Leslie Ghiz (Cincinnati Enquirer, Some health clinics might close, 11-28-06)
8. D. Jeff Berding (Cincinnati Enquirer, Surprise: frozen-turkey budget might fly, 12-19-06)
9. B. Kevin Osborne (CityBeat, 01-18-07)
10. D. Jeff Berding (Cincinnati Enquirer, 01-25-07)
11. D. Jeff Berding (Cincinnati Enquirer, 01-25-07, Cincinnati Blog)
12. E. None of the above – Laketa Cole (Cincinnati Enquirer, Footnotes)
13. C. Chris Bortz (Cincinnati Enquirer, 02-21-07; CityBeat, 02-27-07)
14. D. Jeff Berding (CityBeat, 04-04-07)
15. D. Jeff Berding (Cincinnati Business Courier, Council comeback, 02-23-07)
Extra Credit. A. Leslie Ghiz (Queen City Forum, 01-09-05)
1) Berding
2) Cranley
3) Eby
4) Monzel
5) Ghiz
6) Cole
7) Pavelish
8) Patton
9) Thomas
10)Fischer
11)Harris
12)Bortz
13)Harper
14)Young
15)Garry
16)Bates
17)Jeffre
18)Qualls
19)Malone
20)Cooper
21)Kaup
22)Crowley
23)Winburn
24)Zamary
25)Painter
Trivia Test Part 2
1.Which blogger has WAAAAAAY too much time on his/her hands?
a. Anon 7:03
b. Anon 7:03
c. Anon 7:03
d. All of the above
I know some of you want Garry, Jeffery, etc. to win, but I just ask that you show respect to the Cincinnati electorate. If we take each other seriously and fairly, we can just leave it up to the voters to make objective good decisions. Jeffre and Garry and other long, long shots are not bad candidates, simply inferior ones. Cincinnati will get it right... those of you who want to complain about past elections should look at some of the two faced crocks (smithermann, reese) that seemed good and then brought city hall down. Make good decisions.
the flowers of intolerance and hatred
are blooming kind of early this year
someone's been watering them .
i'd like to see the cps levy passed, it isn't fair to punish the kids for the evil of the blackwells.
i'd like to see the jail tax go down in flames. its wrong to think that the answer to years of conservative destruction of the social fabric and safety net is to build a bigger jail to throw people into.
Remember when Clubber Lang (played convincingly by Mr. T) was asked his prediction of the fight with Rocky Balboa in the movie Rocky III? His prediction was one word: PAIN.
That's my prediction.
Pain on city council because grand-standing kiddies like Leslie Ghiz & Jeff Berding probably hold their seats. A lunatic like Winburn probably wins. Laketa Cole (the chief diva) wins and continues her immature leadership of our fine city. Want more pain? How about radical lefty Crowley who is running on opposing the war and thinks that this issue matters to city voters. Message to Crowley: there's a war on young african american males by other young a/a males? They are killing each other on our streets. What have you done to stop that war?
Speaking of pain...this jail tax is painful. Nearly $800 of money Pepper/Portune (the tax & spenders) can spend on "programs." Ask anyone involved in criminal justice in Hamilton County if there's a LACK of programs. There are enough programs and anyone being honest in the CJ system will tell you so.
Pain. That's my prediction. Pain.
Pain because far too often good people don't get involved in government and we're left with a mayor who never rose beyond "librarian", a council candidate that beats his child, another who can't hold a job at a law firm (ghiz), another who is a schill for the biggest professional sports scam in history (berding), another who has a neanderthal's view of women and the universe (winburn), another wunderkind who thinks he's JFK but with no leadership ability (cranley)...I could go on.
Who should lead us? Roxanne Qualls, Pat Fischer, Chris Monzel, Melanie Bates, John Eby. Even Cecil Thomas and Wendell Young. I could go on.
These are adults. They pay the bills, raise families, know tragedy.
These kids with no life responsibility have ruined and will continue to ruin our fine city.
Pain.
Cranley
Crowley
Bortz
Qualls
Ghiz
Fischer
Winburn
Thomas
Cole
Pregressive is as progressive does...I with you all the way!!! Vote NO on 27.
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