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Monday, November 12, 2007

A Five-Party Town?

Jason Haap, aka The Dean of Cincinnati, helped Justin Jeffre and Michael Earl Patton campaign for City Council.

ven though Jeffre and Patton did win seats lats week, they did something else, Haap says - get their respective parties, the Southwest Ohio Green and the Libertarians, recognized in Cincinnati.

Here's his math: Quoting the city charter, he says "political party" means a party whose candidate got at least five percent of the votes cast for council. Using the elections board's number of 59,246 ballots counted in Cincinnati, five percent would be 2,962 votes.

Both Jeffre and Patton collected more than 2,926.

No more "tri-partisan" around here, Haap says on his blog, http://www.cincinnatibeacon.com/, it's "penta-partisan" now.


13 Comments:

at 12:54 PM, November 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, Haapy's right! Patton & Jeffre will be recorded in Cincinnati's history just as Charlie Taft and Mayor Seasongood!

 
at 1:54 PM, November 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with all the sarcasm? Have you gotten beyond Jr. High?

 
at 3:29 PM, November 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Dean (aka Jason Haap) has it all wrong! He is an ego-maniac like Smitherman and Livingston, who will do anything for a “story” promoting himself or one of his failed candidates (Jeffre & Patton).

Justin Jeffre and Michael Earl Patton did not cause the City of Cincinnati to go from 3 parties to 5 parties.

WHY? Because both parties have already been recognized.

The Dean, in poor attempt to garner some attention to his awful propaganda “newspaper” PURPOSELY failed to include the other half of the definition of the word "political party."

Quoting from Article XIII "political party" means an organization:

(a) whose candidate received a number of votes equal to at least five percent of the number of persons voting for candidates for council in the last election for that office, or

(b) is recognized as a political party for any purpose by a federal court.

This last section, SECTION (B), makes The Dean’s claims wholly irrelevant. Both the Green Party and Libertarian Party have been recognized as a political party by a federal court.

Further, Article XIII discusses campaign finance and the election commission. The Dean was quoting from the definitions section of Article XIII, which is supplied to define terms applicable to that article only.

Nowhere in that article does it state the requirements for actually becoming a recognized political party. It just defines the term.

SO, JJ2k and MEP's efforts were in vain.

THEY DID NOTHING FOR CINCINNATI AND NOTHING FOR THE GREENS AND LIBERTARIANS.

 
at 3:53 PM, November 12, 2007 Blogger Mark Miller said...

The Republicans have abandoned their mantle of lower taxes, limited government and self-reliance. Government under their stewardship was all about corporate welfare and social control of personal matters that are none of government's business.

The Democrats have foresaken their roots as the party of the working man. Instead, they celebrate victimization, dependency, and all forms of social degeneracy. Then they stick the working man with the bill for their wreckage.

Both major parties have obviously enjoyed a lock on power for far too long. They accumulate power for its own sake, abusing their political positions to fatten themselves through corruption. They ignore the will of the people, treating them as obstacles to be overcome while pursuing agendas that have little to do with those of their constituents.

It's no surprise that support for the "republicrats" is lukewarm at best. Now that viable alternative parties are beginning their rise, perhaps we'll begin to have some real choices at the polls.

 
at 4:39 PM, November 12, 2007 Blogger Someone said...

This last section, SECTION (B), makes The Dean’s claims wholly irrelevant. Both the Green Party and Libertarian Party have been recognized as a political party by a federal court.

Anonymous commenter, you are serious about trying to fight the surge of independent politics in Cincinnati!

This past election, the Greens and the Libertarians could not give $10,000 to a candidate, like the Charter Party gave to Chris Bortz.

Money wins elections, and until now, only Reps, Dems, and Charterites could add dollars to a campaign like that.

Now the Greens and the Libertarians can, too.

But you already knew that.

Go back to your Party HQ and spin somewhere else.

 
at 4:47 PM, November 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jane,

How about applying some basic journalism here? Is what the "dean" says true, and if it is what if any rellevance does it have? Jeffre got crushed with 1.7% of the vote, and he dwarfed Patton's votes at that.

What is this, a gossip column?

 
at 5:48 PM, November 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jason Haap continues to spin lies. In one sentence he writes that there is a "surge of independent politics in Cincinnati!" and contradicts himself by saying that this "surge of independent voters" couldn't raise a lousy $10,000 to support their candidate. This "surge" resulted in Boyband Jeffre getting a pathetic 1.7% of the vote (the same percentage he recieved in his run for Mayor) and Patton garned less than half of that.

Some "surge"!!

And he fails to defend his initial point, which post 3:29PM tore to shreds and showed to be an outright fabrication, that Jeffre & Patton have caused the greens & libs to be officially recognized by the City.

Is this guy niave, juvenile, or an out right liar? Or all three??

 
at 7:57 PM, November 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jane's bosses (because reason is lost upon Jane): Have The Enquirer's standards become so impoverished that your reporters must post the ramblings of a dissociative cross dresser who masks his gender identity dysphoria behind the moniker "Dean of Cincinnati"?

Jason "helped" JJ2K05 v2.0 and MEP? Really? Imagine how much better they may have fared without such a leg up.

 
at 8:43 AM, November 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haapless commenter, you are serious about trying to falsely claim that two fringe candidates did something, that was already done.

 
at 11:38 AM, November 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Those whom bash the BEACON, or their founders, need to wake up and smell the coffee !

Before the BEACON, most stories were placed on the back burner !

The 'fishwRap' is known to use them as a first source of choice !

Recently the 'fishwRap' has used the Beacon more times than they have used City Beat while the Beat has been around a lot longer !

The BEACON exposed the last centurion 'hindlick' !

While some posts may be off-base or premature, the majority have validity, and, on balance, great for the community !

We are glad there are dedicated volunteers caring about the community and placing our elected leaders on the hot-seat !

We could go back to wRong wingnut whacko manipulation with the 'fishwRap' as their mouth-piece !

NO THANKS, we'll donate to keep the Beacon's efforts going !

The organization will mature, grow and our community will benefit !

After all, they were with the MAJORITY on Issue 27 !

So, it would appear, they have the pulse of the community and we DO NOT !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008 !

 
at 12:19 PM, November 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean,

Once again you fail to address the point of Anonymous 3:29pm, November 12th.

JJ2k v.20 and General Patton did not- let me make that abundantly clear-

JEFFRE AND PATTON DID NOT CAUSE THE GREEN & LIBERTARIAN PARTIES TO BE RECOGNIZED IN THE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Coming from a "green party" supporter who drove a gas guzzling RV around, it does not surprise me that you fail to see this basic logic.

My 2 predictions for the near future ...

1) Jason Haap, Dean of Canton, will not address the real issue that other third parties have been legally recognized before Dean was itching his daddy's pants.

And,

2) The Cincinnati Beacon, will go from its print version (which by the way is not printed on recycled paper- funny how "greens" support the environment) back to its online version and mere obscurity in less than 3 months.

This noble foray into becoming a credible paper, will fail, just like Jeffre and Patton.

 
at 1:04 PM, November 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry - should I have heard of this 'Haap' character? I have no idea who this person is. Jeffre is a different story. Everyone knows he picked up Nick Lachey's dry cleaning and fed his pets when Nick was out of town.

 
at 1:31 PM, November 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and Dean, you state that now the Greens & Libertarians can give $10k to Jeffre & Patton ... WTF are you talking about?

Both parties could have done so before the "surge" Jeffre and Patton created.

What I have learned from local politics is that there will always be fringe candidates who actually think they can win, and complain when they inevitably lose.

I think it is great for democracy to have a marketplace of ideas where anyone's voice can be heard no matter how ridiculous. Those candidates and ideas are then placed before the voters and the voters choose. It is a simple system that is not without flaws, but it is the best system in the world.

Dean, you failed in this system. The voters told you so. Don't tell the voters they are wrong. It is you that is wrong.

 
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