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Wednesday, May 23, 2007

Freedom Center: $$ or Not?

Now that City Council's fight over arts funding has been somewhat settled, there's a new question:


What happens with funding for the Underground Railroad Freedom Center?


The first plan, which supporters say dates back to late last year when council members finalized the budget, called for the center getting $1 million in capital funds, just like the Cincinnati Art Museum, Cincinnati History Museum and Music Hall.


But that plan didn't have a five-vote majority. Jim Tarbell's plan did. But it called for something different - $800,000 for each of the four, plus $600,00 for smaller arts groups to share. That money also would pay for festivals and parades.


But Chris Monzel was clear from the start - he wouldn't support the freedom center, no matter what. So to get Tarbell's plan to pass, the vice mayor had to take the freedom center out of it.


So Wednesday, the Tarbell plan passed. With no other council members expressing non-support for the freedom center, it had been assumed that the center would get its money, just separately and later. The ordinance to give it $800,000 got a first reading at council Wednesday.


But after the meeting, Bortz said he was considering voting against the money for the freedom center - a "principle vote," he called it, because he still wants the center to get the full $1 million he says was discussed during budgeting. Leslie Ghiz said something similar, that she might have to consider voting against it also. "We had a deal," she said, referring to what she said were prior commitments to give the freedom center more than $800,000.


Laketa Cole, who was out of town and missed the meeting, said later she wanted to talk to her colleagues to find out more about what happened at Wednesday's meeting before saying what she might do regarding the center. Jeff Berding left the meeting early to pick up his daughter from school and couldn't be reached later on how he plans to vote.

This morning, Monzel tossed another plan out there - redirecting the $800,000 now pending for the freedom center into a fund to put speed humps on residential streets. The city gets a bunch of request for the humps but has no money to do them anymore.

Bortz called that idea just another example of the kind of reneging he says has gone on ever since all nine council members agreed to the current budget, which called for $4 million for arts facilities, and since six of them - including Tarbell and Cecil Thomas, who later changed their votes - signed a motion agreeing to divide that $4 million four ways, giving $1 million each to the two museums, Music Hall and the freedom center.

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19 Comments:

at 10:48 AM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make it into a Casino that allows smoking, and nude dancing. Money will no longer a problem and at least there will be something along the Banks LOL

 
at 10:52 AM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Neyer is the Republican Party Finance Committee Chairman.

Monzel has gone against Neyer on the billboards and the arts funding. Leslie Ghiz has sided with Neyer both times.

Neyer controls the GOP purse strings in this town. Guess who will have all the money she needs for a successful re-election? Guess who will have a lot of doors slammed in his face?

 
at 12:09 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Berding, Bortz, Cole and Ghiz all said they supported the health and human services budget on the campaign trail. Now they have the nerve to talk about broken promises because nobody wants to fund the giant sucking sound on the river.

 
at 1:24 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so glad that the City is using my money so wisely. After all, Juvenal said that government only need to give citizens "bread and circuses."

Council wants to give boatloads of money to what it considers, in its opinion, "the arts" (circuses). Meanwhile, we realize no one goes to experience this "art" since they cannot afford to go because they pay so much to the government to subsidize the bread and circuses.

If people did go to these facilities, they wouldn't require our hard-earned money-turned-taxes-turned-subsidies.

So we find ourselves without proper police, too many criminals, pedophiles running rampant, no speed humps, unenforced ordinances and a diminished quality of life because so many of us find it difficult to make ends meet.

At least the executives at the Freedom Center still have their phoney baloney jobs. they are doing such a great job running it into the ground and breaking promises.

 
at 1:42 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boo hoo. The poor little baby Bortz got out outmaneuvered and he just can't stop crying about it. And now the spolied little kid is going to cost his Freedom Center friends $800,000 because its all or nothing. I'm sure John Pepper will be really happy with that. Grow Up.

 
at 2:29 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've criticized Council members in the past for voting to waste our taxpayer dollars on The Freedom Center, which promised to be self-sufficient by now. However, I will be the first to applaud them if they stop wasting our money there and redirect it to important matters.

I applaud Chris Monzel for leading this fight. Fixing roads is far more important than funding a museum which had promised not to seek any further taxpayer dollars. I hope the rest of Council will join Monzel in doing the right thing for their constituents.

 
at 3:15 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fixing roads - yes.
Speed humps - no.

 
at 6:50 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monzel and the rest of the council should be ashamed. Once again their thinking is small minded. Outside of Cincinnati, the Freedom Center is very respected and lauded. Only here, among the single minded, good ol' boy group think, one sided thinking of Cincinnati, would you ever see something like this. I used to wonder why with all this city had to offer, why Cincinnati wasn't the capitol of Ohio. Why Cincinnati isn't more progressive and forward thinking. This is one example of why. How do you plan on increasing our national presence, encouraging tourism, and trying to revitalize downtown when you don't want to support one of the institutions that makes us stand out.

 
at 6:59 PM, May 24, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rhetorical question to all, why is the Freedom Center a waste of money, but not the Cincinnati Art museum, Cincinnati History museum, and Music Hall? How is it when of the four, the one thing that has a national spotlight is viewed as a waste, but not the other 3? Besides, who needs more speed bumps. Soon no one will be able to afford to drive because of gas prices.

 
at 4:50 AM, May 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The so-called Freedom Center is nothing more than another money laundering scheme that will never free anybody.

If you think that the rest of the nation is impressed by the Slave Center you are an out of touch rich white idiot. The 8th most segregated city in the nation is pushing a jail. Congrats!

 
at 7:38 AM, May 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where was Cole, again? Out of town? And Berding had to leave early? I don't trust those excuses at all.

 
at 12:08 PM, May 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't that @&@% Monzel just do wat he's told like every one else does!

 
at 12:13 PM, May 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bortz keeps talking about a deal that was reneged on. Tell us more about this secret deal Bortz because we can't find any public documents that alludes to this "deal."

What are you trying to hide? Where is the pure and honest government you spoke so highly about on the campaign trail?

 
at 12:50 PM, May 26, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brad, I mean Bob, the deal is in public documents and signed by six Councilmembers. Stop perpetrating mistruths and lies.

 
at 6:04 PM, May 28, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Mayor Zero?

Since when does this kind of debate go on without anyone asking or caring what the mayor thinks?

Mayor Zero.

 
at 10:01 AM, May 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm glad my tax money doesn't go to that joke of place. i'll never go there.

 
at 1:28 PM, May 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Creation Museum just opened. How soon before Leslie Ghiz and Jeff Berding demand they receive taxpayer funding too?

 
at 1:38 PM, May 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeff, Ghiz and Berding wouldn't go for it, but taxpayer funding of a Fundamentalist Christian's wet dream is something your boy Monzel'd go for in a heartbeat. Look for him to make that motion as soon as he stops mourning the death of his hero Falwell.

 
at 4:13 PM, May 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell you what third floor guy, I propose you and I take a Hypocrisy Challenge.

My pledge: If Chris Monzel supports taxpayer funding for the Creation Museum while opposing funding for the Slave Center, I will march over to his office to personally reprimand him for that hypocrisy and publish the same in a letter.

Your pledge: If Leslie Ghiz and Jeff Berding support taxpayer funding for The Freedom Center while opposing funding for the Creation Museum, you will march over to their offices to personally reprimand them for that hypocrisy and publish the same in a letter.

You in?

 
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