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Thursday, April 24, 2008

She Didn't Really Mean It Was Excruciating

Councilman John Cranley, as one might imagine, went on for quite awhile at Wednesday's special finance committee meeting on streetcars, specifically with money questions. At one point, he asked City Manager Milton Dohoney what would happen if the streetcar system failed and had to shut down in its first year.

The blog UrbanCincy said Cranley "belabored" the issue. Councilwoman Roxanne Qualls called it "excruciating."


She apologized during the full meeting of council Wednesday, saying she actually hoped Cranley would continue to push for answers to important questions.


26 Comments:

at 3:33 PM, April 24, 2008 Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

If these clowns can find money for a toy like a streetcar thru Jurassic Park why do Cincinnatians pay city taxes. The city must have more money than they need now.
ST CSA

I still can't figure out whats wrong with the buses.

 
at 3:46 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Qualls meant what she said the first time. She's just trying to cover up a gaffe. She made her point in trying to insult Cranley and was successful. Now she gets to look good pretending to be contrite.

I'm no fan of Cranley, but at least someone is asking tough questions. I doubt it will make a difference because most of council has made up their minds and would never change them even if they were told the street cars will cost $1 Billion after overruns, will be 5 years behind schedule and will shut down within 24 months because their rainy day fund was depleted trying to keep it alive.

After all, they'll be term-limited by then, so what do they care?

 
at 5:19 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be sure to hit the Blue Chip Young Republican meeting 7:00 Monday night at Monty's in Norwood where they will have Chris Monzel and John Schneider debating the Streetcar. As a bonus, Roxanne Qualls is unlikely to be present with her excrutiating comments.

 
at 7:43 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hot damn! I'd like to know where this money tree is hidden that City Council shakes & the greenbacks start tumbling down. I'm in the same canoe with everyone else. It's either put a few bucks in the gas tank or buy whatever is on sale at the grocery. I think the people would relish a decent meal every now & then.

I'm glad Cranley asked the money questions. If the taxpayers are going to have to do without, then we want to know just how solvent this streetcar folly really is. As for Qualls, she's recycled goods. Times have changed & it's clearly obvious she hasn't kept pace.

 
at 8:39 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Street Cars" is starting to smell an awful lot like the "Freedom Center".
1) Won't be self-supporting.
2) No one will know what to do with it.
3) No one will admit to promoting it or "owning" it.
4) Won't serve the great purpose, originally expounded.
5) Special interests will make money off it - but that'll be hard to trace.

Fool me once......

 
at 8:49 PM, April 24, 2008 Blogger UncleRando said...

There is no money tree. The money that the City is contributing is coming from the capital budget. Money from the capital budget is meant specifically for capital improvement projects like road resurfacing, signage, streetcars (for instance), etc.

Cranley is asking these "tough" questions in order to come off like a taxpayer watchdog, and the above comments show that you're falling for it hook, line, and sinker. These questions have been answered numerous times by City Manager Dohoney. The questions that Dohoney couldn't answer were those that were entirely speculative and would be unreasonable to answer at this stage in the game.

Bottom line is that if the City can't get the private portions raised for the project then the whole thing is off without any of this approved money by Council being spent. The taxpayers are in good hands on this one.

 
at 9:20 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm fairly certain that a picture of the city council is next to the definition of excruciating in the dictionary. even sausage getting made is a prettier sight.

 
at 9:22 PM, April 24, 2008 Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Qualls doesn't give a damn about anything except Qualls. She only lives in Cincinnati because because the voters elsewhere are not so stupid as to elect her.
St CSA

 
at 10:43 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awww... poor widdle Jeffy Cappel has to go posting anonymously on this blog to try to get attendance at his meetings high enough that the fat, bald reactionaries making up the group can form a basketball team.

Where are you loser friends Harlow and Gloyd when you need them, Jeffy? They set you up to fail.

We knew you guys would run the club into the ground. We had no idea it would go so far downhill so soon.

Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

Don't embarass yourself Monday night. Stay in your Mommy's basement.

 
at 9:40 AM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

These bozos think they are doing something unique. Well, check out Columbus...they are getting a cho-cho too. Only theirs will go up and down High Street, with real attractions.

 
at 10:46 AM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:43 is CincyCapped posting ANON. CC is going underground.

 
at 1:21 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Go Blue Chips! said...

The Cincinnati Enquirer just plugged the Blue Chip Young Republican meeting Monday night. It looks like poor widdle Jeffy didn't do so bad for himself and his club.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080425/NEWS01/304250019/1056/COL02

 
at 3:47 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Flying Dutchman said...

Anon 9:40. You say attractions along Columbus route but not Cincinnati's? What kind of attractions do you want? The stadiums, the Banks, Fountain Square, the Contemporary Arts Center, Aronoff Theater, Gateway Quarter, Music Hall, SCPA, the many theaters in OTR, Findlay Market, UC, the hospitals, and dozens of bars and restaurants in between. Those aren't attractions?? And you forget to mention the thousands of people living in apartments and condos along the route who will be served...

 
at 3:56 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous CincyCapell said...

I sign my posts, unlike you Jeffy.

You are obsessed with me!

 
at 4:43 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, "A Streetcar Named Roxanne."

How about a $180 million tax break instead?

 
at 6:12 PM, April 25, 2008 Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

lets move the fountain to OTR instead.
St CSA

 
at 7:28 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Go Blue Chips! said...

Look here, even the liberal Cincinnati Blog is also mentioning the Streetcar forum being hosted by the Blue Chip Young Republicans this Monday night at 7:00. Man Cincystalker must really be upset now!

 
at 10:55 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous No Bore-tz Fan said...

I want to know how streetcar bandleader, Chris Bortz, can get away with voting and promoting the streetcar when SEVERAL of his family's properties run along the route? It seems he is so fervent about promoting the streetcar so his family and their business can profit. Sure, it is for Economic Development, HIS developments. Something stinks!!

 
at 11:22 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Cranley's Ex Girlfriend said...

Spending any amount of time with John Cranley is excruciating. He'll even tell you the Latin root of the word.

 
at 3:10 AM, April 26, 2008 Anonymous CincyCapell said...

The cincinnati Blog mentioned the fact that the Blue Chip Hitler Youth is hosting the forum...in order to mock it.

 
at 2:33 PM, April 26, 2008 Anonymous Soros is a Nazi said...

Did someone say Hitler? I'm feeling kind of hot now.

 
at 5:24 PM, April 26, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

is cincycappell related to jeff? if not, why use his last name in your name? are you a stalker?

 
at 7:59 PM, April 26, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

CincyCap is monopolizing the sight. CC, CSI and Anon all rolled into one. No wonder you're a hoot at the office; Jeff knows who you are, but he's being polite. Better ease off Jeff now before you get punked again.



won't reveal it to they don't know who to give the c

 
at 2:06 AM, April 27, 2008 Anonymous CincyCaoell said...

Oh Jeffy,

We Can recognise your sockpuppetry in the last several posts. If you knew who we were, you would have already had Fanny The Shyster file a lawsuit against us.

You have no idea who we are. If you knew, you would freak out.

I will see you this week Jeffy, and I will say a big, friendly Hello! to you.

If only you knew Jeffy, if only you knew......

Love,

CincyCapell

 
at 1:14 PM, April 27, 2008 Anonymous CincyMatusak said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

 
at 4:37 AM, April 30, 2008 Anonymous CincyCapell said...

You think that I'm Greg Matusak? Oy vey!

Keep trying Jeffy, and up the dose of your Prozac while you are at it, Mr. 'confirmed bachelor'. Not that there is anything wrong with it.....

 
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