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Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Burke won challenge for chairmanship

The Hamilton County Democratic Party upheld its end of the deal with Republicans last night at the Party's central committee meeting, despite efforts by some in the Party who wanted to break it by endorsing Chris Dole for Hamilton County Commission.

Read the story here.

UPDATE: GOP Chairman Alex Triantafilou calls the deal dissenters "radical" in his blog and said he's glad the deal remains intact. Read it here.

The deal also prompted some competition for Tim Burke as he sought to be reinstated as Party chairman. Central Committee member Mike Wood challenged Burke for the job because he was "personally chagrined at the conduct last year about this deal where we're not running people against candidates," he said.

"I think we can do better. I think we need to do better," he said. Several people applauded.

Burke said he recognizes that "what I've been doing ... is far from perfect," but said the Party has had some big accomplishments. Among those, the Democratic majority on the county commission, four Democrats in county executive offices and an increasing number of Democratic judges.

"I think those are positive things," Burke said. "for those of you who support me, thank you."

Burke won reinstatement 99 to 15. All the previous office holders were also re-elected to their spots.

Dole said after the meeting he was disappointed that he wasn't endorsed and pointed a reporter to the second principle of the Democratic Party.

"We believe there is no substitute for fair and equal representation and strong public participation in a government chosen by election."


That, he said, says it all.






54 Comments:

at 11:05 AM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Tom Luken - now what? Please sit down and shut up

 
at 11:42 AM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, Luken shouldn't sit down. This just shows how broken the local Democratic Party is. We need to do away with the laziness and apathy of many local Dems and get more involved with the party, instead of letting the same old crowd run everything time and again.

What's especially appalling is how Areyh Alex and a bunch of "Young Dems" sat in the back of the room and openly mocked some speakers, while complaining the debate was taking up too much of their time and cutting into their dates, etc.

Ahhh, the future bodes well for the party.

 
at 11:45 AM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Estrogen said...

Personally, I'm glad Dole wasn't endorsed. He didn't decide to run for Commissioner due to a desire to serve but rather a frustration with the back-room deal. Maybe if Dole, like Greg Harris, expressed interested in running BEFORE the primary things would be different...

 
at 12:03 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Democrats have confirmed they oppose democracy.

 
at 12:24 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burke needs to go. Besides this back-room deal, what other unethical deals has he helped construct or promote.

CityLink comes to mind.

B Stone - OTR

 
at 12:28 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the tidal wave of Democrats that will most likely be elected into every office this November, it's sad to see that Cincinnati lacks any true leaders of change within the Democrats party. Hopefully some of the newly inspired voters will get involved at the local level and push the true leaders of change forward. They must be out there somewhere.

 
at 12:39 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, estrogen, based on your comments, you would've voted to endorse Harris if he were in this same position?

Just wondering.

 
at 12:47 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So have the local Republicans 12:03. The Party Bosses need to go. They both stink.

 
at 1:23 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:47 - you might have missed it, but George Vincent IS gone. He was replaced by Alex Triantafilou a couple months ago.

 
at 2:45 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tryingtofoolyou is no different; he conceeded the county to the democRATS. We will be completely powerless in the County for years to come.

 
at 4:10 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This deal assures Dem control of county commission in a critical election year, over the next two years and probably the next four years (assuming Pepper seeks re-election). It's smart strategy. As for those who say voters were denied a choice, any citizen of Hamilton County could have run. It's too bad Dole wasn't motivated to run before the "deal."

 
at 4:11 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

With Tryintofoolyou at the helm the democRATS will sweep Hamilton County this November. Looks like they will take Dist 1 & 2 as well.

 
at 4:42 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like the young dems were having a good time. It would be nice it the whole party could lighten-up and be more relaxed.

 
at 5:10 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's especially appalling is how Areyh Alex and a bunch of "Young Dems" sat in the back of the room and openly mocked some speakers, while complaining the debate was taking up too much of their time and cutting into their dates, etc.

It sounds like the 4 of them were having a good time being disrespectful.

 
at 5:31 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Areyh Alex will be the reason I don't max out to the Driehaus campaign. I doubt I am the only one.

 
at 6:12 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the Driehauses back THE DEAL?

 
at 7:14 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What's especially appalling is how Areyh Alex and a bunch of "Young Dems" sat in the back of the room and openly mocked some speakers, while complaining the debate was taking up too much of their time and cutting into their dates, etc.

It sounds like the 4 of them were having a good time being disrespectful."


This is the same group of young Dems that supports Victoria Wulsin. I can name them if you'd like me to.

The Hamilton County Democratic machine is weak and badly broken.

What the Democratic Party needs is leadership and, right now, leadership is lacking in the Hamilton County Democratic Party.

 
at 9:13 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the nation reeling from the damage of the Bush Era, we had a real chance to sweep the entire county and entomb the local branch of the Gang Of Perverts. Whle they will be out of business elsewhere, at last there will be an officehere for President Obama's FBI to examine when what's left of the entire Gang Of Perverts is shut down under RICO.

 
at 9:21 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What's especially appalling is how Areyh Alex and a bunch of "Young Dems" sat in the back of the room and openly mocked some speakers, while complaining the debate was taking up too much of their time and cutting into their dates, etc.

It sounds like the 4 of them were having a good time being disrespectful."


This is the same group of young Dems that supports Victoria Wulsin. I can name them if you'd like me to.


Yes, please name names while you hide under a veil of anonymity...

 
at 9:51 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to see sean butler and his cronies trying to disparge the leadership of britt born. Good to see the party tearing itself asunder over trifles while the ship runs aground.

 
at 10:04 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Aryeh Alex is the entire Hamilton County Young Democrats organization now? One person doesn't make the group, just like within HCDP. They've done a lot of good work since the new leadership came in.

 
at 10:09 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hamilton County Young Democrats shouldn't be held responsible for what a group of the College Dems were saying and doing. They are a separate organization. Aryeh was merely explaining the evening's process to them.

 
at 10:11 PM, April 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

To set the record straight: Hamilton County Young Democrats have not endorsed Vic Wulsin.

 
at 12:15 AM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you all love how the Republican website exercises censorship to such an extreme that they have little to no comments from the community?

That website/blog is truely representative of the republican tactics.

Hey Alex, if you want a dialogue - dialogue - if you want a dictatorship, keep dictating

 
at 8:23 AM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous DC said...

This deal makes perfect sense. There is a finite level of resources (both monetary and volunteers) available for Dems. Instead of wasting resources on a third Commission seat (which doesn't really matter since we already have a majority) we can focus our resources on congressional races and pick up seats that matter.

Plus, there is no way Areyh has a date to complain about missing, so you are obviously lying.

 
at 8:23 AM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous DC said...

This deal makes perfect sense. There is a finite level of resources (both monetary and volunteers) available for Dems. Instead of wasting resources on a third Commission seat (which doesn't really matter since we already have a majority) we can focus our resources on congressional races and pick up seats that matter.

Plus, there is no way Areyh has a date to complain about missing, so you are obviously lying.

 
at 10:03 AM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Estrogen said...

I was at the committee meeting, sitting in the back since I'm not a precinct exec. I don't know what anonymous #2 is talking about. The 'rowdy' young dems were sitting in the back and talking amongst themselves just like everyone else. Obviously this person just has a grudge against Aryeh Alex and/or the Young Dems.

Personally, I was impressed that 20-26 year olds would take the time to come to a three hour meeting where they had neither voice nor vote.

 
at 11:04 AM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me a break. The College Dems were rude and disrespectful. I'd rather them not attend than behave like that.

 
at 12:43 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Committeeman is not donating to Driehause either.

 
at 1:38 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Aryeh Alex is the entire Hamilton County Young Democrats organization now?

No that wouldn't be a fair statement. Based on their typical attendance he'd be about 1/4th of the YD's.

 
at 2:27 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who ever is making negative comments about the "young dems" can you please get off of it.

That is not what this blog story is about, STAY ON TOPIC.

Also, if you people that are making the negative comments are DEMOCRATS that is even more shameful.

This year, more than ever, we need to stick together. And with this current issue we as dems are dealing with in the HCDP, we need to stay focused on the BIG PICTURE...ensuring that Hamilton County goes BLUE!!

 
at 2:53 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right - that's why there are more members now than ever before, and attendance has been really high at all their meetings and events. Good one. If you're going to blog, at least get your facts straight.

 
at 3:28 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:53pm

Calm down Shawn Butler (or the SB fan), you lost, move on with your life.

 
at 5:03 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Jamal said...

The Young Democrats overthrew their capable black leader and replaced him with an inexperienced white person. There needs to be answers for this.

 
at 6:44 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kind of Democrat votes to forfeit a Hamilton County Seat to a Republican? Sounds like Arey Alex Democrats are like Scott Gehring Republicans. You should get rid of them, like we threw out Gehring.

 
at 7:26 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of the Young Dems' state of affairs, just be thankful we aren't the Young Repug-tards. How depressing must that be?

 
at 7:26 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's right 2:27, let's stay on topic. This blog is about how the Hamilton Democratic Party under the coercion of Todd Portune and Tim Burke sold-out to the Republican bosses. Your rhetoric is TP/TB B.S.

It is just like the B.S. of the new Republican Boss that you back with your support of The Deal:

Tuesday, April 22, 2008
The Deal Remains
Despite the push by a few radicals, the Hamilton County Democratic Party Central Committee voted overwhelmingly to support "the deal" entered into by Chairman Burke. Read the Enquirer story here.

I found it curious that Tom Luken, a longtime political figure in this community, lead this fight to undermine party leadership. Tom Luken has made more than a few deals to benefit his political career. In fact, he was instrumental in a deal in the early 1970s with the charterites to "trade" the mayorship of Cincinnati. It seems odd that Mr. Luken would be so adamant about this.

Let's put the issue of "the deal" behind us now. It's time for us to face off with the Democrats from the White House to the Courthouse.

I URGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED.

 
at 7:29 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Hamilton County Young Democrats go door to door for Vic Wulsin.

The Hamilton County Young Democrats work the phone banks for Vic Wulsin.

The Hamilton Young Democrats solicit campaign contributions for Vic Wulsin.

And the Hamilton County Young Democrats sit at every single Hamilton County Democratic Party meeting and divide the Democratic party of Hamilton County.

OK, so may be maybe the Hamilton County Young Democrats haven't "endorsed" Vic Wulsin.

Hell, they might as well be Vic Wulsin.

 
at 8:52 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dole got screwed by a bunch of crybabies.

 
at 10:30 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The young dems have never done anything for Vic Wulsin. In fact, I think a lot of young dems think she is totally insane.

 
at 10:35 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't appear that Tim Burke or the Hamilton County Democrats have much respect for the voter. Their Young Democratic contingent appears par for that course as well.

 
at 10:57 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

HCYD does not go door to door for Vic Wulsin, nor do we phone bank for her or fundraise. Some members may do so on their own time, but the ORGANIZATION does not. Again, get your facts straight.

And we don't do anything to divide the Party. That's absurd.

 
at 11:00 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Shawn Butler was capable, why was he almost impeached last year?

 
at 11:05 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The main point that almost everyone is missing is that DOLE CAN STILL RUN!!!! He WILL be on the ballot!!! The D-Party is not preventing voters from voting for him! The party just decided to withhold nomination. Nomination of course helps greatly, but does not prevent anyone from running and possibly winning. Dole, fight the good fight. You have my vote in November.

 
at 11:40 PM, April 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal, you don't know what you are talking about. Butler may or may not have been competent but the problem was that HE WASN'T THERE. He showed up late and his position as President of the HCYDs was not a priority at all. I understand that he has his job with the mayor and that comes first but if you can't put the time and the energy into being YD President, DON'T TAKE THE POSITION. He was holding the organization back--rather, he SET it back five years.

 
at 7:12 AM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The precinct committee, rigged with Burke appointments, just voted to put a target on Pepper. For what? To concede a winnable seat? Shame. Shame.

 
at 7:48 AM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Areyh Alex is the same guy who was stooging for the Berding endorsement. Another great Burke moment!

 
at 8:42 AM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous DC said...

Smart Democrats vote for a deal like this. I love that people's personal animosity towards Tim Burke blinds them to the benefits of this deal. This deal allows resources to be focused on the more important congressional races. Why waste resources on a third commission seat? Is there some benefit to holding all three seats rather than a majority? I thank god Tim Burke cares more about winning elections for Democrats than making crybaby losers feel good about themselves.

As for YDs, what I have learned from this blog is the shocking acusation that they are supporting a Democratic candidate (Wulsin). I almost had a heart attack when I heard that, a DEMOCRAT, really!!!

 
at 9:35 AM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Young Democrats overthrew their capable black leader and replaced him with an inexperienced white person. There needs to be answers for this" said Jamal.

OBVIOUSLY HE WASN'T VERY CAPABLE SINCE HE GOT BEAT OVERWHELMINGLY!!

 
at 10:38 AM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear HCYDs,

Thanks for making us look competent.

Signed,

BCYRs

 
at 5:24 PM, April 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

dc

there is tremendous benefit to holding all three county seats

the republicans understood that for thirty years

which is why they made this deal

they only need to go after one seat now

smart-ass

 
at 12:02 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

DC,

The only "crybaby" I know of in this mess is Todd Portune, who threw a temper tantrum until Burke agreed to the deal.

Poor Todd. Maybe it's time he leave public office and actually pay attention to his legal practice for a change, or what's left of it.

 
at 5:36 PM, April 25, 2008 Anonymous DC said...

5:24,

The republicans held all three seats because Hamilton County, until recently, was overwhelmingly republican. I agree that if you can hold all three seats, great. If we had a strong candidate (or any candidate) for the open seat, perhaps the analysis is different. However, prior to the deal we did not have anyone stepping forward to run. Why put resources into a race you when you can't even field a candidate? As for Dole, I don't know him, but the fact that he was not interested in running until after the deal speaks volumes to me.

Based on the facts at the time of the deal, and even in hindsight, this deal gives Democrats the best chance to pick up congressional seats while still maintaining a commission majority.

Obviously you disagree with me, but I appreciate that you are willing to engage in a dialoge on this issue. Ideally, Democrats would love all 3 commission seats, but with no candidates stepping up, do you think it makes strategic sense to put resources into a commission race?

P.S. I take your smart ass comment as a compliment.

I haven't addressed 12:02 because there isn't much to say. I acknowledge your distaste for Todd Portune, enjoy your anger.

 
at 7:50 PM, April 28, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

dc

you should know there was a candidate

he was pushed out

greg harris is from cincinnati, greg hartmann is from the bush-cheney machine

you are correct that the county is more democratic, so why forfeit a seat?

a greg harris or a chris dole run would not hurt our congressional challengers

does every other candidate hurt our congressional challenges?

either you have a defeatist attitude or you have been paid by burke or portune at some point in your life

smart-ass

 
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