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Friday, March 14, 2008

Red-light cameras cause wrecks?

A new study by the University of South Florida finds that red-light cameras - the kind Cincinnati's in the process of going out to bid for - actually cause more accidents than they prevent.

Other studies have come to different conclusions, true. But this one says that because drivers knew they were being watched by the cameras, they slammed on their brakes when the light turned yellow. Those quick stops, the study says, caused other people to wreck into them.

Check out the Tampa story here.

Cincinnati City Council agreed on a budget that counts on $1 milion in fine revenue from red-light cameras this year. But a memo from City Manager Milton Dohoney's office says there's no way cameras can be in operation here until the fall, making it impossible to raise so much money this year.


at 12:20 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

considering how people drive in South Florida, I believe it.

One time there I slowed and stopped for a red light; 3 motorists behind me went left of center to run the red light. no lie.

at 12:21 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

correlation does not equal causation

at 12:54 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure some brainiac on City Council will see this as an opportunity to make even more money rather than do what the government is SUPPOSED to do - work towards the public good.

Send Big Brother packing along with the dangerous cameras that cause wrecks.

Cincinnati should be safe and welcoming - red light cameras are simply another reason for people to stay away.

Believe it.

at 12:55 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous anonymousincincinnati said...

big brother is watching you courtesy of the dems running cincinnati.imagine a republican run city floating this idea of red light cameras...the enquirer would be calling for the impeachment of the whole lot.

at 12:57 PM, March 14, 2008 Blogger usefullidiot said...

cameras are a blatant out and out money grab...high accident rate intersections can be eliminated by signal timing adjustments and/or approach grade modifications.

at 1:05 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city does not care about what accidents the lights will cause or will prevent. City leaders are doing this because they want to generate revenue. It is all about the money, as usual.

at 3:26 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thankfully in the County the County Engineer won't try this idea. Even if the 3 Council/Commissioners want him to.

at 3:39 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The NAACP is going to get this on the ballot and voters will reject it.

Council should stop wasting our money and putting the public at risk so they can generate money for their pork barrel spending and hand outs to their favorite campaign contributors.

at 6:13 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The NAACP claims the red-light cameras are racist

at 6:40 PM, March 14, 2008 Blogger adap2k said...

Not only do they cause more accidents, the companies providing these services and the cities using them have been caught lessing the time between yellow and red lights.

In Columbus, an Australian company Redflex gets 80pct of the fine.
So we have violated the constitution, in my opinion, as well as out sourced it. Columbus reported that they have received $500k so far so do the math , were sending millions of dollars of our cities citizens money abroad. Deplorable.

at 7:18 PM, March 14, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Council knew of these safety studies but could care less. Just remember those Councilmembers who went along with this garbage as they campaign for next next years election.

at 7:13 AM, March 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cameras don't cause wrecks: drivers do.

Yellow lights are indicators to slow and stop; not speed up. Their length is irrelevant.

A lot of scofflaws, anarchists and militia types posting to this thread.

Or liberals; same difference.

at 7:30 AM, March 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like anyone needs another reason not to go into the city.

at 11:09 AM, March 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats pretty funny that red light cameras are considered a liberal issue.

they are just one more example of how outsourcing (a conservative favorite) is fleecing all of us.

at 12:02 PM, March 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is all about the money for city council. Safety has nothing to do with it.

Luken was right to veto this bad idea.

Mayor Zero is hiding, again.

at 12:03 PM, March 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the repugs in office nationaly hadn't soaked us citizens with poor inept financial management our state and city governments wouldn't be feeling the pains many of Americas citys now feel. So NO i don't blame local dems for anything. Having said that I think that red light cameras do NOTHING to enhance safety and everything to raise funds for city use. This is one of many terrible ideas that I simply do not accept. It's greedy attempt at fleecing the citizens who are already feeling the pains of poor government choices. After living in this city for close to 40 years I've come to the conclusion that NOTHING will ever make Cincinnati a desirable place to live, eat, work, or socialize. I left downtown in 2000, moved to the burbs and haven't been back since. Haven't missed anything from Cincinnati. When we travel for fun, we depart from Indy or Dayton. This poor choice in fleecing the people of cincy is just one more reason added to a long list of reasons not to spend time or money in cincy.

at 12:24 PM, March 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 12:55, if the Repugs ran the city, they would use them to spy like Big Brother. The Gang Of Pedophiles has been obsessed with spying on citizens since at least the Red Scare of the 50s right up to the present. Democrats are trying to get people to obey the law, but Repugs like you think you're entitled to special exemption from the law. What, are you afraid another one of your "Family Values" heroes will get caught on one of these cameras with yet another little boy?

at 9:33 AM, March 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another failed policy brought to you by the Dahoney-Mallory administration. Let's boot these guys out next year.

at 11:35 AM, March 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Voters only vote on name recognition. Mallory WILL be returned to office in '09

at 12:45 PM, March 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 12:03 I tend to agree with most of what you said. I moved from the city, too. I got tired of the CPS fleecing.
It amazes me that the City pays police to keep the peace, but whenever some drug induced madman gets shot by the cops, the City gives the idiot a multi million dollar settlement. Doesn't the City employ decent legal council?

at 1:45 PM, March 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city has been controlled by Democrats for decades. It is the Democrats, and only the Democrats, who are responsible for the poor financial position the city is in. Democrats can't manage money.

at 7:37 AM, March 17, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats manage money very well. They manage to take a lot of it for themselves. Just look at the Mallorys.

at 11:44 AM, March 17, 2008 Anonymous JT said...

Right, like anybody in this city is going to vote Council out of power. For years, I've been voting only for people who haven't been on council, yet it never helps. This city constantly elects the inept to run it without even trying to find anybody new. Then again, when we do bring in new people to council, they are equally ineffective.

at 12:46 PM, March 17, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds to me like there might just be a lot of angry repugs out there spotting off because they know that the days of uncontrolled greed and capatilism that doesn't reward are soon to be OVER. Say what you want locally about the Dems, there still better neighbors and leaders than anyone of the greedy selfish necon repugs I've ever met. The city wouldn't need to sort to tacitcs like red light cameras if our taxes were being using for projects here at home and not supporting a new democracy far away that doesn't even want our support. Give it up repugs, your turn at uncontrolled greed and trickle UP economics are soon to be over.

at 2:05 PM, March 17, 2008 Blogger usefullidiot said...

Hey moron 12:46 PM, March 17, 2008,

Why don't you just sign over all of your money and assets to the DNC? Us repubs still have a few months to steel you blind and leave nothing for a Dhimmicrat share-a-needle program.

Ya better hurry!!!!

at 2:47 PM, March 17, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whow uselessidiot seams to be off her meds. Get job that requires you do something other than promote your own failed logic and surf the cinci net all day. Your always spouting off like an uncontolled old hagg who has absolutely NOTHING positive or constructive to say or add. How sad your life must truely be. I would suggest that you seek help soon as you may not make it through the fall given your failed partys prospects for anything.

at 11:31 PM, March 17, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't we all just get along? God Bless America.

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