Breakfast for Pepper
Hamilton County Commissioner David Pepper is holding a fundraising breakfast April 29.
If you go, you'll not only get some food, you'll also hear Pepper's "update on progress being made at the County" and you'll be given the opportunity to share your ideas about and solutions for the future of Hamilton County
The minimum price is $100. The suggested contribution is $250.
The event will be Tuesday April 29 at 7:30 a.m. at the Queen City Club, 331 East 4th Street.
Information: 513-470-5047 or kimberly@kwa.us.com.
31 Comments:
Will this 'fundraiser' be in Cheviot where we all love David Pepper?
ST CSA
Will Master Pepper be bringing his servants?
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"Award-winning CincyJeff said...Will Master Pepper be bringing his servants? 12:52 AM, April 19, 2008"
Typical racist, 'culture of corruption', 'wRong wingnut whackos', whom get their perspective on life from a local political tabloid !
We wouldn't suggest the young chipper, jeffy, go coast-ing on an elephant dung propaganda lit-drop in Cincinnati !
PATHETIC 'family values' !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008 !
Will Jeff Capell ever actually win an 'award' in any of his wacko lawsuits? Or will he keep taking lowball 'settlements' because he knows that he cannot win?
If I show up and give ONLY $100.00 (the suggested price is $250.00) will I get anything to eat. And will anyone respect me??
Perhaps, at this $250 breakfast, Pepper can explain why he voted to agree to all of Finney/Capell's demands and award them $10,000 in attorney's fees to boot. For such a "lowball" settlement, the Finney/Capell team saw all of their demands met and got a $10k cherry on top from the county budget.
Got what 'demands' met?
There were three suits; they lost one, settled for $10,000 in another (which went to Finney for his fees and expenses) and 'settled' for the 'right' to be allowed to send letters to county employees, which they could have done without a 'settlement'.
These clowns can't win in the court room, and they know it. They were given these lowball 'settlements' to go away, because the county didn't want to waste the money fighting them in court. These guys are no different than a Whiplash Willy and his ambulance chasing shyster lawyer, who sue Krogers after an alleged slip and fall in one of their stores.
Krogers throws a token amount at Whiplash Willy to go away, because it costs more to go to court than to settle for a small amount.
Jeff Capell = Whiplash Willy
Finney The Fanny = The Shyster
CincyVillageIdiot - there were 2 lawsuits filed, not three. Two. That's the number following One. And the County settled both of them by granting all of the Finney/Capell demands and paying them $10,000 of tax dollars. Those are the facts. You can ask Richy Rich about it at his breakfast.
If the county's aim was to settle quickly by writing a lowball check to make it all go away, wouldn't they have tried this 6 months ago, when the price tag was lower? Instead they chose to fight it in court because they didn't want to have to pay Finney any attorney's fees. When they saw they were going to lose the Federal case, and prolonging the case was adding to Finney's legal bills, they capitulated.
Your side got smoked on Issue 27 and you got smoked in Court. Learn to live with it.
WRONG! There were THREE suits; one they lost, another they 'settled for the letters, and the third they 'settled' for 10 grand. Whiplash Willy and The Shyster knew that they could never win a suit, so they cut and ran.
Chickenhawks, shysters and cowards. It could be the new theme song for both COAST and the Blue Chip Hitler Youth.
COAST is TOAST. All of your sycophants are out of power once DeWhiner is gone.
Live with THAT.
We will, happily ever after.
CC,
If you refused to allow something to happen, but someone sued you over it, and you were ordered by the court to do it against your will, and you had to pay $10,000 to the attorney of the person who sued you, would you call that a win for yourself?
I think not.
Did Whiplash Willy Capell and his Shyster obtain a consent decree from the County to keep the Sheriff from allegedly campaigning again? Or even a simple apology and pledge not to engage in the alleged behaviour that again?
No, they didn't.
That would have been a moral victory at least.
Instead, Capell's syhster walks away with some chump change. And they got to send letters to people's homes. Which they could have done anyway. But hey, they saved on postage, so I guess that they can say that walked with 'something' in hand.
Too bad that 'something' wasn't a victory, or even their dignity intact.
Keep filing to suits Whiplash Willy, and you'll keep losing.
CC, if I sued to stop you from blogging on here, and a judge forced you to stop blogging, and the judge ordered you to pay me ten grand, you'd really call that a victory for you and a defeat for me?
Please, save us both some time and trouble and just stop blogging on here then.
CincyVillageIdiot, you are wrong once again. There were TWO lawsuits, the federal case and the state case. TWO. That would be the number between One and Three, and your IQ.
There was an early partial settlement in the federal case. The County had to allow the WeDemand coalition to hold its press conference, free of charge, in front of the County Commission offices. The also had to allow Capell to send his anti-tax letter to Sheriff's employees, with the postage taken care of for them. In return, the plaintiff's only had to withdraw their request for a TRO. The rest of the lawsuit went on.
Note again, without the agreement the letter otherwise never could have been sent. The personal information of law enforcement is protected by state law and not subject to public disclosure.
The final agreement closed out both cases, with the plaintiff's getting $10,000 in attorney's fees. In summation, the plaintiff's got what they wanted and got paid for it. Some loss.
Fannyboy and Capell,
The 'plaintiff', Whiplash Willy Capell, did NOT get what he wanted.
The County did not admit guilt, they made no pledge for Si to stop (allegedly) 'using his office to campaign', nor did you obtain a consent decree ordering the Sheriff to do so as part of the so-called 'settlement'.
Instead, you sent some letters to the Sheriff's employees. I know many of them, they all threw the letters away. Unopened. And Finney got some chump change. If you give Capell some of that 10 grand, maybe he can finally afford to replace that 10 year old Monte Carlo. He can move on up to a 5 year old used car.
You got played. You didn't achieve anything resembling your objectives. You did not win, there was no victory on your part, moral or otherwise. They threw you a bone to go away, like a stray dog.
I will never forget Capell being interviewed ofter losing, err, 'settling' his case. He looked completely demented and crazed. the guy was rambling and looked like a complete nutter. I cannot imagine how embarrassed and humiliated he must have been. It was delicious.
And then Nadel thew your ass*s out of HamCo court.
You are a couple of chumps. Let us know when you actually win something.
Ouch. some people don't know when to stay down. CincyJeff, you keep getting pwned. Just stay down man, you're getting pummelled.
You didn't accomplish anything guys. Emperor Lies continued to (ab)use his office to campaign for issue 27 right up until election day. The only reason that he stopped was that the election was over. He will do exactly the same thing the next time around.
Whats Pepper serving for breakfast?
I can eat at Frisch's for $10 and not have to listen to his lies.
StCSA
Cheviot Frisch's?
Only West Side meatball's actually think that Frisch's tastes good.
the 11:55 comment comes from a White Castle lover. eats them by the dozens.
That's fine if Leis does the same thing next time around. If he does, he'll get sued and lose again, and in the process it will generate serious amounts of negative publicity for his own tax hike.
For the benefit of CincyVillageIdiot I'll let the cat out of the big. The biggest victory in this lawsuit, in reality, was the negative PR it generated against Leis and his tax hike. Some people, especially Village Idiot, just don't see the big picture.
Leis and the county didn't 'lose' the suit. And you didn't get any publicity until after the election was over.
Keep trying to convince yourselves that you won some type of victory. we all know the sad truth is that you lost, and lost big.
Si will go on being Si, and you are powerless to stop him, mighty mouse.
OK. I have been reading the back and forth. Now I want to know the thruth, did Jeff Capell win his lawsuit against Simon Leis, did he reach a settlement or did he lose?
If he won or settled it, did he receive an admission of guilt, a court order, or an agreement to keep Leis from using his office to campaign in the future?
If he did settle for $10,000 and the right to send letters to Leis's employees, but didn't get some type of order that Leis would not do the same thing again in the future or an admission of guilt, as I am reading here, then I would say that he lost.
I voted against issue 27. But I can tell you that I did not vote against it because of Coast, this laawsuit, etc. I voted against it because it was far too much money, and the money was not just for a jail.
I made that judgement from the facts and figure, not due to rhet oric from interest groups on either side.
It was a settlement where the plaintiffs got their demands met and were paid $10,000 in attorney's fees. A further order was not necessary because the law already prohibits that behavior - that's how they were able to sue for what they got. If Leis does it in the future, he'll get sued again and lose again.
"It was a settlement where the plaintiffs got their demands met and were paid $10,000 in attorney's fees"
What 'demands' did the plaintiff's get met in the 'settlement'?
By their own admission, the only items they received in the 'settlement' were the 'right' to send letters to the Sheriff's employees, and they were able to hold a press conference in front of a County office building. And Fanny The Shyster got some chump change to go away.
"A further order was not necessary because the law already prohibits that behaviour"
This is a contradiction in terms. If "the law already prohibits that behaviour", how did the Sheriff engaged in that behaviour (so they allege) to begin with? And why then did they need to file suit in the first place?
And if the Sheriff engaged in the behaviour (allegedly) despite its being illegal, and the plaintiffs did not receive an admission of guilt from the defendant, a court order not to engage in the behaviour again, a consent decree, or even a simple pledge from defendants not to do it again, what will stop the sheriff from (allegedly) engaging in the same exact behaviour in the future?
The answer to that is NOTHING.
Let's put it in very clear, simple English: THE PLAINTIFFS DID NOT ACHIEVE ANY OF THEIR ORIGINAL GOALS. THE SHERIFF WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY. THEY COULD NOT WIN IN COURT, AND ACCEPTED A FEW SCRAPS FROM THE COUNTY AND SOME CHUMP CHANGE IN ORDER TO SAVE FACE.
except they didn't save face, they have egg all over their faces instead. They walked away empty with bupkis. Especially Whiplash Will, who is still driving around in his 10 year old Chevy sh*tbox.
All alone.
As always.
Ouch.
Alright, after going back and reading the stories in the Enquirer, City Beat and at WCPO I have a pretty clear picture of what hap pended. I wouldn't consider what the plaintiff's received in the out-of-court settlement to really be a victory. While they didn't walk away empty handed, they did not achieve their original goal, which was to stop Simon Leis from using the power of his office to campaign for the passage of issue 27. Then there is the fact that the plaintiff's lost their case in Hamilton County Court. The Sheriff continued undaunted, and will likely do the exact same thing in the future. While the Plaintiff's received attorney's fees in their settlement, I would wager that their attorney easily used $10,000 of his time in the case that he could have devoted to some other area of his practice. So from where I sit I would say that no, this was not a victory for either side. I would call it a draw at the end of the day.
Let's see how CityBeat, hardly a bastion of conservatism or pro-COAST sentiment, interpreted the situation:
http://www.bestofcincinnati.com/public.html
Best Use of Litigation to Check Big Egos:
Local activist Jeff Capell filed a federal lawsuit in October against Hamilton County Sheriff Simon Leis Jr., alleging ol’ Si broke state election laws when he included a letter in paychecks to his workers urging them to support a sales tax referendum on the Nov. 6 ballot. Leis settled the lawsuit and, while not admitting any wrongdoing, caved into every concession that Capell and an anti-tax group sought, including allowing them to hold a press conference on county property.
They got their letter out. They got to hold their press conference in the county building. They scored a ton of bad PR against Leis. They got attorney's fees. They even got a Best of Cincinnati award.
They could have refused all settlement offers and litigated it for another year to maybe increase their payout, but what's the point? They hit themselves 3-run homer when a Sac Fly would have been enough to win the day.
You lost at the polls. You lost in Court. Get over it! Enjoy your $250 breakfast with Pepper and his servants.
nobody said Frisch's was any good. But it's better than David Pepper.
St CSA
Who lost in court? You did Jeff. Nadel ruled against you, and you had an out of court settlement on your other suit.
The County could have pursued the case and won, but they would have spent considerably more than the $10,000 that they gave Fanny The Shyster for his 'fees'.
And your other 'demands'? They let you send some letters and hold a rally in front of a county office building. They didn't admit guilt. You did not obtain a consent decree, court order or other agreement that the Sheriff won't do the same thing again, nor were you able to stop him from allegedly campaigning during the election.
You didn't win, Period. Not even a Pyhrric victory. You got a few bones thrown to you so you could try to save face when you ran away.
You got played.
Bones = everything you sued for and $10,000. Village idiot.
Settlement = nothing but scraps & Chump Change
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