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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Iraq war - five years

We'll post statements as we get them, with most recent on top.

From Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky:

“The brave men and women who answer the noble call to defend our nation and the spouses, children and parents who support them are our nation’s most valuable treasures. Thousands of troops from Fort Campbell and the Kentucky National Guard are in Iraq right now. Many are on their third tour of duty. This week as we look back on our five years in Iraq, I hope that all Americans will take some time to remember the great sacrifices these soldiers have made in the name of our freedom.

“Our troops are succeeding in their mission under the new strategy being implemented by General David Petraeus. It is imperative that we continue to support our commanders on the ground and ensure that our soldiers have the resources they need to finish the job and return home as soon as possible.”

From Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio:

“Today President Bush held true to form, claiming we are safer when Osama bin Laden remains free, claiming progress when the Iraqi government has failed to meet most of the benchmarks set out, and claiming we are better off when nearly 4,000 troops have lost their lives and the financial strain is wearing our economy thin.

“Five years later, 130,000 of our military remain in harm’s way. Five years later, Ohio has lost 165 men and women, mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, teachers and firefighters. Five years later, there still is no exit strategy. We continue to spend billions of dollars every week on the war – diverting money away from efforts to fight terrorism around the globe, choking off funds for important infrastructure and domestic programs.

“The president is recycling old rhetoric to defend his open-ended invasion. As his administration’s tenure comes to an end, the president should be focused on ending the war rather than on salvaging his legacy.”

House GOP leader Rep. John Boehner, R-West Chester:

“In the five years that have passed since the start of this conflict, our men and women in uniform have heroically ousted a terrorist dictator, freed a nation, and planted the seeds for political reconciliation that will pave the way for the first democracy in a part of the world that needs it most. Today, after countless obstacles to our success over the past five years, Iraq’s fledgling democracy is at long last taking important steps toward the ultimate goal of self-rule. Elections have been held, police and military forces have been trained, legislatures have been assembled, and infrastructure has been built. And most importantly, American troops are beginning to return home after victory, not defeat.

“While our nation rightfully thanks each and every serviceman and woman who returns home from Iraq, it will be our children and grandchildren – and their children and grandchildren – who truly will owe them a debt of gratitude. Their selflessness and courage in the face of a ruthless and soul-less enemy not only has brought increasing security and stability to a breeding ground for terrorists seeking to destroy us, but it has laid the groundwork for a safer and more peaceful world for generations to come. While more work is left ahead of us, the progress made under General Petraeus’ plan gives our troops and their Iraqi security forces counterparts the momentum they need to overcome not only the terrorist enemy they face in Iraq – but also the naysayers at home who claimed victory was never possible.”

Here's U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell's:

“Last week, congressional leaders from both parties stood together in the Capitol Rotunda to pay tribute to the service of our troops. Though we will continue to engage in a spirited debate on the future of our national security, we can do so in a manner which honors the brave men and women who have sacrificed so much for our country. We can rise above political fights and focus on continued security in the Middle East, instead of what will happen in November. And we can spend less time telling the troops their mission is unwinnable, and more time focused on providing them with the funding they need to succeed in their mission.

“On this fifth anniversary of U.S. military service in Iraq, we must provide our armed forces everything they need so that they can return to their families in success.”

Here's John McCain's

"Today in Iraq, America and our allies stand on the precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism. The security gains over the past year have been dramatic and undeniable. Al Qaeda and Shia extremists -- with support from external powers such as Iran -- are on the run but not defeated. Tough fighting remains ahead, especially in places like Mosul. Important political gains have also been made, but far more must be done in coming months to cement the gains made in huge cost in American blood and treasure.

"Americans should be proud that they led the way in removing a vicious, predatory dictator and opening the possibility of a free and stable Iraq. Americans should be proud that once we implemented the surge and new counterinsurgency strategy, a dire situation has been dramatically improved. And, Americans know that the consequences of failure would leave our nation less secure for generations to come."

John McCain's campaign today further re-released a web feature on http://www.johnmccain.com/ that chronicles the Senator's leadership on Iraq and in the larger fight against Islamic extremists. The page, entitled "Fighting Islamic Extremists: Progress in Iraq," features a four year timeline of John McCain's unrelenting call for a new strategy for victory in Iraq -- the strategy currently winning on the ground.

Here's Victoria Wulsin's:

“Five years after the war in Iraq began, there is still no end in sight. The men and women of our armed forces have done everything we have asked, serving honorably and bravely; but our leaders have failed them, failed us and failed the Iraqi people.

We have lost 3,990 American soldiers in a war that now costs us $12 billion each month. The Bush Administration set 18 benchmarks for the Iraqi government before the surge, but only 3 have been met.

The price of oil has tripled since March, 2003 and still the President and his allies refuse to change course.The time is now to devote the same level of diplomatic and political effort that our troops have given on the battlefield and in security operations. And here at home, it’s time to reunite the hundreds of thousands of families affected by this war, ensure that our veterans get the care they deserve, and invest in our economy and our future.”


at 10:18 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

A majority of Americans now support the war. Clearly Virus Vic didn't take the hint from, ohhh, the mainstream media and the entire Democrat party that the Iraq War is no longer an issue Democrats can run on. The Democrats are completely capable of pulling out of Iraq, yet refuse to do so. The only reason Vic Wulsin wants our troops to come home is so she can go over there and find some more victims for her atrocious human experimentation without being caught, just like she did in Africa.

This woman should not be running for Congress. She should be locked up in the psych ward of Christ hospital!

at 10:32 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vic please stick malariotherapy. World affairs is obviously not your strong suit.

at 10:35 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Five years, five hundred billion dollars, over 4,000 KIA, in excess of 600,000 civilians sacrificed. Our economy in tatters, the world's supply irrevocably damaged, our political discourse coarsened, our standing in the world diminished. Now our government tells us that there was no connection between Iraq and terrorism prior to the invasion. We never found weapons of mass destruction. Let us lament the past five foolish years, and make amends for our sins. We soiled and tarnished our national soul, but we can be redeemed if only we have the courage to withdraw.

at 11:15 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Vic Wulsin is complaining about the price of oil. I guess she supports going to war for oil, but not drilling in our own country for it. I guess we could all take a tip from her and umm..'ride our bikes' everywhere? You know, I've never actually seen her on a bike despite her being in parades left and right. What a hypocrite! Wulsin, go back to Africa before Bush eradicates the HIV virus. You're time is running out!

at 11:17 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Jim Parker was our Congressman, we would be out of Iraq right now. He would have gone to Washington and raised so much heck that things would have gotten done. That's just the kind of man that he is.

In 2010, when Parker runs again, we will once again have our opportunity to make the change in Washington that we have long sought.

at 11:23 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...


Let's get real and finally admit that it is all about THE OIL, period !

The US has 3% of oil reserves, yet, consumes 25% of the yearly world production !

We are not building the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad because we want to protect democracy !

It is self-preservation and our soldiers should be honored and respected for defending the free-world, PERIOD !

It is The Oil Factor, PERIOD !

Why not call it like it is ?

Why not let the world know we will defend the free-world and put the sheiks, dictators, etc. ON NOTICE - if you like your power you better be more cooperative in your commodity pricing or you will be hiding in your own Saddam hole ?

Those are the facts children !

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !


at 11:33 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to your logic, we would not have fought WW2. I was there. You can thank us that you don't speak German.
You spineless people think freedom is free. Are you so naive to think our enemies will not attack if we give up?

at 11:50 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

the hyperventilating bedwetters would have you believe that leaving iraq and its civil war would be the end of civilization as we know it. get over it, you were lied to so that the neocons could rob the country blind. its time to get out of iraq and time to leave the neocons in the dust. better yet, ship them all of to the hague where they can be tried as war criminals.

at 11:59 AM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... Anonymous said...10:35
According to your logic, we would not have fought WW2. I was there. You can thank us that you don't speak German. You spineless people think freedom is free. Are you so naive to think our enemies will not attack if we give up? 11:33 AM, March 19, 2008"

Typical wRong wingnut whacko spewing the elephant dung propaganda !

There is no correlation between Iraq and Germany, GET REAL !

The US was in bed with Saddam. The US granted Saddam permission to expand into Kuwait. He just went further than we were willing to stomach, PERIOD !

Hitler, however, is the "bush family idol", PERIOD !

The spineless are the former soldiers whom refuse to face reality !

'A Crude Awakening" !

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !


at 12:15 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enquirer editorial this morning asked the all-important question, "What are the objectives of this War?"
I'd bet no 2 people here could agree on a clear stateement of the Objectives.

1) Take out a ruthless dictator? >> that obviously wasn't it.

2) Protect our oil supply? Maybe but of course W. can't come right out & say that.

3) Stop terrorists? >> there are bands of terrorists all over the globe. Is stabilizing Iraq (if even possible) really going to stop them?

We can argue all day whether we're winning or losing but if we don't have a clear agreement on the Objective, it's meaningless.

at 1:26 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous JT said...

Bold Anonymous: Oil is the reason for the war? Really? You do realize how much the war is costing, right? I assume you have some idea, since I've seen you throw out uncited numbers previously on these pages. So you really think that's the cheapest way to obtain oil? Have you noticed that oil prices are sky high, an all time high as a matter of fact? Clearly, your argument is flawed. However, I'm sure after being caught on that, you will simply call me a wrong wingnut, and say that I'm spewing dung. But that's fine, being called names by a child doesn't really bother me, I'll just consider the source.

at 1:31 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Imus B Somebody said...

you LIBS are uber-naive to think Saddam Hussein would've minded his own business and kept out of our war on terror in Afghanistan.Can't you see beyond your nose that if we hadn't invaded Iraq,Saddam would've drawn us there regardless?
Of course you supported the Saddam regime so I don't expect you'll be able to see my POV...carry on trashing Bush then...you get up in the morning excitedly anticipating your opportunity to rip him and the R party...have at it.

at 3:03 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the most biased propaganda machine ever.

How about printing what these soldiers have to say?


Who cares what a buch of chickenhawk liars have to say or what some unethical Dr. has to say?

Support our troops! Print what they have to say!

at 3:22 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares what Wacky Wulsin AKA "Icky Vicky" has to say about anything? Congresswoman Jean Schmidt will crush the inept, pathetic Wulsin like a bug soon enough.

at 3:43 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Support the troops. God Bless America...

at 3:49 PM, March 19, 2008 Blogger UncleRando said...

First it was because Iraq was behind 9/11, then it was because they had WMDs, after that it was because of an evil dictator, then it turned into spreading democracy, and now we've come all the way to nation building. It truly is unfortunate that so many valuable lives have been lost as a result of this misguided policy decision.

The Middle East is less stable today than it was 5 years ago, and we've squandered billions and billions of dollars and the thousands of American lives that can not have a value placed on them.

Be a true patriot and demand that we end this misguided war.

at 3:54 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... JT said...Oil is the reason for the war...So you really think that's the cheapest way to obtain oil? 1:26 PM, March 19, 2008"

No, we don't think it is the cheapest way !

Your wRong wingnut misleader's thought it was the cheapest way !

The OPEC leaders decided to punish the US for their imperialist intervention and with their crony in power they agreed to exploit the country for oil profits, PERIOD !

Now, go back to yo mama's basement and work on that home skool ed-ju-ma-cake-son !

Refute the numbers, bag-boy !

Put-up or shut-up !

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !


at 4:18 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry 10:18, you are dead wrong:

Poll: Most Americans Say War Not Worth It

Today 29 percent of Americans say the results of the war were worth it; 64 percent say they were not.


at 4:24 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous JT said...

Just as I thought, nothing in your argument. Just empty statements with nothing to back them up, and more name-calling. I suppose I should have expected nothing less.

at 7:14 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

" JT said...4:24 PM, March 19, 2008"

Looks like the new, green and naive', wRong wingnut whacko party misleader, and XXX judge try-and-feel-me-low (JT) is going to be the one-man band singing the elephant dung propaganda !

Sure would help if she could read !

PATHETIC 'family values' !


at 10:07 PM, March 19, 2008 Blogger sayswho? said...

Here's some random comments on the comments.
1.Bush never even hinted that Hussein had anything to do with 9/11. He said that Hussein was involved in terrorism, and that is true.
2.Hussein was not "invited" to invade Kuwait by the US. He was more or less constantly at war with Iran, and then he went after
Kuwait, all by himself.
3. The war is expensive. So was the CIval War, and all other wars. Wars are about money? There's a lot of truth to that...We fought the Revolutionary war over taxes!
4. Wars are not all that's expensive. In fact, the Iraq war is a relatively small part of the budget. People are inclined to say that anything they don't like about our government costs too much, and just as easily say that what they like is well worth it. The cost of the war is a weak indicator of the value of the war.
5.We do know the objective of the war. We want Iraq to have a stable government with a viable infrastructure. To complain that we don't have a flawless plan for how to acheive this is lame. Do we have a flawless plan for crime reduction in our own country? Or for better (and affordable) education, for better and (affordable) health care, etc. If we should dump every plan that isn't flawless, we would have to dump our entire government. (Hmmmm...)
6. Terrorists murdered three thousand people on 9/11, and then we went after them; not the other way around. They are vicious, and kill indiscriminatelly. They've been doing this since before there was a USA. They must be stopped. If the USA is the only country that takes this seriously, that speaks well fo us, and not so well of all the other countires that are also under attack.

at 11:05 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vic will pull it off in November. Just wait and see. This is what happened two years ago. Nobody thought she had a chance and then BOOM..a poll came out and it said she was neck & neck with Schmidt. I have faith in her and she will declare victory in November.

at 11:33 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...



at 11:34 PM, March 19, 2008 Anonymous Jim Parker said...

This is the last thing I'll say to the people of Cincinnati before Easter weekend...

If I were your Congressman, I would make so much noise about the so many things that are wrong in our country right now that the people responsible for taking advantage of you for their own economic gain would have no choice but to confront me and answer my questions. Those of you who know me know that I never give up on anything.

The war in Iraq is terrible for the American Economy. Every single family in this country is feeling the pain. Especially those people who have lost a person who they truly love to the war in Iraq. Especially to those who have to live with the lifelong consequences of a quick but not very well thought out action by the highest leaders of our land.

Just to put this into perspective, I was the first person to send a press release to every single newspaper in Southern Ohio supporting Colonel John P. Murtha's plan to begin a phased withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. Since then America has spent nearly 500 BILLION dollars, lost nearly 4,000 American soldiers lives and we are still no better off than we were the day the President declared MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. I supported John Murtha's plan and sent that press release before most of you ever heard of Colonel Murtha. I supported his plan before our COngresswoman ever had her meltdown on the floor of the US House of Representatives. Murtha almost gave his life to a bullet on an American battlefield. That act of courage demands our respect. More American soldiers have died on the battlefields of Iraq than the number of people who lost their lives on September 11th and the war hardly even makes the headlines anymore.

I don't know who the people are who continue to write positive comments about me, but your positive words are appreciated. No matter what I do with my life, I will ALWAYS continue to make a positive difference in the lives of other people. That's why I went into healthcare so many years ago. That's why I ran for Congress without spending money, but instead by trying to win people's hearts.

My journey all throughout Southern Ohio has been so incredible. There are so many good people who live here. You really do deserve a Congressman who will always stand up for you and your families. I love the people that I tried to represent and someday, I will try again. But right now, I'm going to leave this challenge to the politicians of today.

Before you read a comment from me again, I will have personally visited the homes of one thousand more families and said the two most important words in the English language ---- THANK YOU --- from JIm Parker

There is so much good in the hearts of the people of Southern Ohio. Happy Easter and may this war soon come to an end.


at 12:31 AM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Kent Evans said...

I have a problem with the lack of imagination in making an impact. Why sweat the troop withdrawl deadlines? It's unnecessary contentiousness. Get in a closed room and make some deals, brainstorm. One idea would be to set a date, pull out and do an about face when the insurgents are in the bases looting, or get cameras set up to ID the leaders? Egads, to say that deadlines are the bane of a big dilemma?

Go with the flow. It's all ugly anyway! Are the Giants any less SB champs because they pulled off a lucky play? Get the scrappers to pull out the win just like those who compete in basketball this time of year. To those who think this war has to be an overwhelming win by condemning those concerned: you're fooling yourselves and costing this country much in human and monetary capital.

at 12:40 AM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Victoria Wulsin needs to talk about "Victoria's Secrets" very soon. Ahhh...I have a feeling the conservative voters of Southern Ohio will talk about them for her. She's a disgrace to politics, and needs to give up after this defeat...however, she does make a wonderful opponent for the Congresswoman.

at 2:23 AM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sayswho is our newest wingnut liar here on the Enquirer's blog. Everything that this wingnut says is a lie, so please allow me to clear up some of his misstatements.

"Bush never even hinted that Hussein had anything to do with 9/11."

Bush and his lackeys have been connecting Iraq & 911 from the very beginning. Cheney just linked Iraq & 911 again TODAY. Just as he has been doing from 2003 onwards


Bush has done it also:


"Wars are not all that's expensive. In fact, the Iraq war is a relatively small part of the budget. "

Really? The price tag for the Iraq debacle has now surpassed the price for the Vietnam War, even when adjusted for inflation. Iraq is now our 2nd most costly war in American history, surpassed only by the cost of The Second World War.



The current cost of the Iraq war is nearly $1 trillion, and will cost at least $3 trillion before it is over. This for a war that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the neocons promised would cost $50-$60 Billion, max.

The total 2008 budget for the United States is $2.9 trillion, by the way. So is $1-$3 Trillion really "a relatively small part of the budget"? I think not.


Of course, these are the very same people who promised us that the war would be over in 6 weeks, the Iraqi people would welcome us with roses and chocolates, and that we could do the job with 150,000 soldiers. So what else do you expect from them, and their lying 29 Percenter base to say?

Here's where it gets really good.

"Terrorists murdered three thousand people on 9/11, and then we went after them; not the other way around. They are vicious, and kill indiscriminately (sic). They've been doing this since before there was a USA."

Yes, terrorists did kill 3,000 people on 911, and that was horrible and we were right to go after the Al Qaeda terrorists and their Taliban supporters in Afghanistan in reprisal. However, Iraq had nothing to do with 911, nor did it have anything to do with AQ either. By invading Iraq we took our eye off of the Afghan campaign, allowed Bin Lauden to escape, allowed AQ to enter Iraq and turn that nation into a terrorist recruitment field, training ground and haven.

Our involvement in Iraq caused us to mismanage the Afghanistan operations so badly that the Taliban now have regained control of much of that nation. It has also stretched our military to the breaking point.

Do you think that the Wingnut Sowhat is willing to join the military and fight in the cause which he supports so lloudly? I bet that he is of eligeble age to enlist, which is now 42.

Our invasion of Iraq has has lead to over a half million Iraqi deaths, mostly civilians.

Are there any other points that I might clear up for you, Lying Wingnut?

at 9:56 PM, March 20, 2008 Blogger sayswho? said...

I checked your site concerning Cheny linking Hussein to 9/11. You might want to read it again yourself. The site is obviously biased against Cheny, and yet IT DOES NOT STATE THAT CHENEY LINKED HUSSEIN TO 9/11.

I know that you are sure that you are 100% rught about everything. Some day you might grow up.

at 10:56 PM, March 23, 2008 Anonymous Sayswho The Liar said...

Here 'Who', this time it's Cheney saying it in his own voice, so you don't stain a hemmeroid trying to grasp the written word.

Maybe one day you will stop lying. I doubt it though.


at 8:03 PM, March 24, 2008 Blogger sayswho? said...

OK, I heard Cheney say that the Czechs said that there had been a meeting in Prague between Atta and an Iraq official. I heard Bush say that there was a connection between Al Quida and Iraq.

You've claimed on two separate postings that you have quotes of Bush and Cheney linking Iraq to 9/11. Both times your links have said no such thing.

You are an idiot.

at 2:18 AM, March 25, 2008 Anonymous Says Who the Liar said...

You can drag a wingnut to water, but you can't make him drink it. Who is a true 19-Percenter who will believe until his dying day that Saddam had WMD's, and that there was an Iraq/AQ connection, and thus a 911 connection.

Hey, Who, have you served in the military? You certainly write as though you are of age to enlist-42 or under. What are you waiting for?

Or are you another right wing chickenhawk?


Here are some more Bush Iraq lies:


Go eat some Yellow Cake, asshat.

at 3:07 PM, March 27, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many bridges could be built if we spent our money on homeland infrastructure other than Iraqi infrastructure?

The wasteful thing: The Iraqi's destroy all the improvements we make over there. I saw it happen multiple times myself! Look at the pipeline that was hit yesterday!!

End this bleeding of treasure, troops, and time!

End this horribly planned fight that the Bush administration brought us!

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