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Monday, March 10, 2008

Clinton used Bush's plan to win Ohio

The Associated Press' Andrew Welsh-Huggins has this analysis of Clinton's win:

Hillary Rodham Clinton took a page from President Bush in her approach to winning the state's key presidential primary.

Bush famously won Ohio and the White House in 2004 thanks to support from rural voters. Following his lead, Clinton and surrogates like husband Bill, the former president left no corner of the state unturned.

That allowed her to defeat Barack Obama despite her rival's big victories in large urban counties traditionally seen as must-wins for candidates.

"We're very pleased with the outcome we got in Ohio," said Clinton senior adviser Ann Lewis. "It demonstrates Hillary's strength in reaching urban, suburban, exurban and yes, rural voters."

Clinton won 54 percent to 44 percent in Tuesday's Democratic primary according to unofficial results. Her victory came even though Obama won four of the state's biggest counties, the urban centers of greater Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati.

Some of Clinton's biggest margins came in rural southern Ohio, including a nearly 10,000-vote margin in Scioto County, where she had 81 percent of the vote, and a 3,000-vote margin in Jackson County, where she took 80 percent of the vote.

An Obama spokesman said Obama's Ohio showing indicated strong crossover support from Republicans and independents that will make him the strongest nominee against Republican candidate John McCain.

"Within the course of a month, we cut a 20-point deficit in half even though Sen. Clinton had the support of a popular governor and the bulk of the political establishment in the state," said Ben LaBolt, spokesman for Obama's Ohio campaign.

Despite Clinton's win at the polls, the two Democrats remain in a tight race for delegates that Obama pledged he would win.

Clinton has argued that her victories in the electoral-vote rich states of California, Ohio, New York and Texas make her more likely to carry the general election.

Polls show a close race in November regardless of who the nominee is. An Ohio Poll released the week before the primary by the University of Cincinnati said Ohio voters are evenly split if it's a matchup between Obama and McCain.

The same poll said Ohio voters give McCain a slight edge over Clinton if she becomes the nominee.

Many of the counties Clinton cleaned up in were the former southern Ohio stomping grounds of Gov. Ted Strickland, including his home county of Scioto.

Strickland, who in 2006 became the first Democrat elected Ohio governor in 20 years, made sure Clinton knew the importance of taking her campaign outside of the cities.

Democratic strategist Dale Butland said Republicans for years piled up huge margins in the rural and exurban counties to offset Democratic majorities in the cities.

"Ted Strickland employed that strategy himself as a Democrat it served him well in his election," said Butland, who is not working for either Democratic presidential candidate.

"He gave the same advice to Sen. Clinton which she took, unlike Sen. Kerry, who didn't," Butland said.

Kerry, the 2004 Democratic nominee, was also working against heavy turnout that year by conservatives voting to approve the state's gay marriage ban, one of the country's toughest.

Decades have passed since Ohio last saw a competitive Democratic primary, and the interest showed in a record turnout of 48 percent of registered voters.

Clinton still garnered more interest than Kerry in his primary four years ago. Where she won 81 percent of the vote in Scioto County, Kerry got 55 percent in his 2004 primary.

Where she got 80 percent of the vote in Jackson County, Kerry got 64 percent. Where Clinton got 78 percent of the vote in Lawrence County, Kerry got 59 percent.

Clinton's primary strategy is modeled on her New York campaign, where she went to rural areas of the state considered Republican strongholds, said Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson.

"It's the way that we've run this set of primary contests, and it is the way we would certainly run in a general election," he said.


at 9:19 AM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

▪ What might have actually happened in Ohio and Texas? Tin foil hat?
▪ Clip:
[Laura Ingraham]: "Rush, I understand that the Rush Limbaugh audience is mobilizing in Texas for Hillary. Am I hearing that right?"

[Rush Limbaugh]: "I don't know if the audience is mobilizing or not. I am urging people — I am using a phrase — the Republicans — our nominee is chosen. It's John McCain.

Texas is open. And I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura. This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don't have the stomach for it.

As you probably know, we're getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying not to be critical there. Mark MacKinnon of McCain's campaign says he'll quit if they get critical over Obama.

This is the presidency of the United States you're talking about. I want our party to win. I want the Democrats to lose. They're in the midst of tearing themselves apart right now. It is fascinating to watch, and it's all going to stop if Hillary loses.

So yes, I'm asking to cross over and, if they can stomach it — I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton — but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need. It would be fun, too."


at 9:20 AM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, there is one key difference. The votes were counted honestly and it was conducted in a fiar manner when Clinton won.

She didn't have a biased Secretary of State doing things like using a company who had contributed to her campaign supplying the computers for the people to "vote" on

she didn't have any political supporters making illegal purges of the voting rolls

she didn't have anyone to purposely shortchange cvoting machine allocation in places where her opponent just happened to be strongest

she didn't have an army of political allies stirring up racial hatred and challenging voters in places where her opponent was strongest

although she had the current governor's support, she didn't have him using state police to intimidate voters at polling places like his predecessor did in loyal service to the Chimpy McHitlerBurton war machine and all of its illegal activities


at 9:49 AM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous anonymousincincinnati said...

meantime,I just ordered Barbara Olson's in depth revelation book on Hillary;"Hell to Pay" and Gary Aldrich's "Unlimited Access" an FBI agents look into the Clinton White House.
I've just finished re-reading Olson's last book on The Clintons;"The Final Days".
All Clinton Kool-Aid drinkers should read that one and walk away sober about Bill and Hill from doing so.

at 9:54 AM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

from OSU Election Law:

Sunday, March 9
Pay Attention to Provisionals
That's one piece of advice I'd give to both election officials and candidates this election season. This lesson emerged during the 2004 election, when the large number of provisional ballots cast in Ohio delayed the decision to call the state -- and thus the presidential race -- for President Bush. In Ohio's 2004 election, provisional ballots amounted to 2.8% of those cast, and an even higher percentage of the state's voters cast provisional ballots in 2006.

A large number of provisional ballots can indicate problems in a state's registration system. Also, to the extent a state relies heavily on provisional ballots, it's likely that some voters will be disenfranchised. Moreover, county-to-county discrepancies in the way provisional ballots are verified can alter the result of a close election -- and possibly lead to equal protection concerns.

To illustrate the impact of provisional ballots, I've been trying to find out the number and percentage of provisional ballots cast in Tuesday's primaries. So far, the Ohio Secretary of State's website doesn't appear to have this information. (As I mentioned Wednesday, it's important that this information be released as soon as possible.)

I have learned that a large number of provisional ballots were cast in Franklin County (Columbus area) on Tuesday. The total reported turnout was 299,688, but I'm told that there are approximately 20,000 additional provisional ballots that have yet to be verified or counted. If that's correct, it means that around 6.25% of Franklin County voters cast a provisional ballot. That's a lot.


at 10:11 AM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

KUCINICH says 10,000 Republicans crossed over to vote against him in his district alone:

Run time: 05:23

at 11:00 AM, March 10, 2008 Blogger usefullidiot said...


Add "Feel Your Pain" to your list of bedside reading...It's a real hoot!!

at 12:35 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's amazing how HRC has already lost, yet still thrashes the DNC and the momentum that Dems currently hold. The longer she keeps it up, the stronger McCain becomes!

The Clinton Horror Film that Wont End!

Be The Change. Vote OBAMA!

at 1:26 PM, March 10, 2008 Blogger Quim said...

Use The Force. Vote SKYWALKER!

at 1:31 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did she steal Ohio too?

at 3:04 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right-Wing Jesus Freak Nutjob Culture of Corruption Alert!


Oh, wait, Spitzer's a Democrat. Never mind. It will all be a distant memory 24 hours from now.

at 3:39 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was never any doubt in my mind that Hillary would win Ohio. This state will never support an African American candidate for anything, I don't care how good he is. Racial bias in this state overrides even common sense. What a shame.

at 5:46 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon wingnut 3:04-At least Spitzer had sex with a woman. Had he belonged to the Gay Old Pervert party he would been wearing a diaper ala Senator Vitter and been caught with a young paigeboy.

The Clinton's are better people than the criminal, idiot Chimp in office that we have now will ever be.

at 7:16 PM, March 10, 2008 Blogger usefullidiot said...

"This state will never support an African American candidate for anything,"


Auhhhhhhh KEN BLACKWELL???????????

Oh...I know.He's a house N*****, like Colin Powell, right??

If Walter Williams would run, I'd quit my job and work for him pro-bono.


at 8:09 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Repug-Nazis make me sick. Your president steals TWO elections, wastes trillions of taxpayer dollars on an illegal war that we he started by getting 3,000 Americans killed and then lying to the world about weapons of mass destruction, his top aide outs a covert agent who did nothing more than tell the truth about his illegal war, your party has a senato with a diaper fetish and a senator who uses a public restroom as a pickup joint, you have a Congressman who likes to have perverted online chats with minors, but someone in the other party hires a prostittute and you have the tasteless gall to point the finger? Your maggot-gagging moral posturing alone might explain your party's near-complete rejection by voters the last two years, though I am sure your party's policy of rewarding those who send our jobs overseas and allowing millions of Americans to have their homes snatched by banking crooks may be factors, too.

We no longer have two political parties. We have one party and one cult that steals from its supporters an tells them that God wants them to keep voting them back into office.

at 1:06 AM, March 11, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Rural" in Ohio is code for white. Check the demographics of the counties Ms Rodham Clinton won.
Pathetic excuse for a candidate evokes the "white southern " Dixiecrat strategy to "win."
At least George Wallace didn't cloak his true beliefs in the veil of PC !

at 10:17 AM, March 11, 2008 Blogger usefullidiot said...

"white southern " Dixiecrat strategy to "win."

Of course, we're back to the 1930's

That's why the counties of Virginia have elected more Americans of African decent to the office of Sheriff!!!!!!!


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