posted by Carl Weiser at 3/06/2008 09:03:00 AM
I got a kick out of Tim Burke dismissing the number of ONE TIME ONLY cross-over voters helping Hillary.Thousands took a strong drink first then took the bold step to go against their inner core and cast their ONE TIME ONLY vote for a DEM.Those lofty numbers in the article will look much differently in November when the cross-overs vote for McCain.
The real question is -how many of those "Democrats" are merely Republicans who crossed over to vote for what they considerd to be the weaker candidate on the Democratic side? Clearly some did, we just don't know how many.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME WITH THIS?!!! SW OHIO HAS NOT GONE DEMOCRAT...THEY'VE GONE SABOTAGE! Those so called "new" Democrats will be right back to Rebuplican and vote for McCain in November. They knew McCain was a shoe in for the nomination, so these people took their cue from the likes of Cunningham and Limbaugh, and got a Democratic ballot and voted for Hillary. Why you might ask? Becasue the Republican party knows they have a better chance at beating Clinton than Obama. Thanks SW Ohio! This is the craziest crap I have ever seen!!!
Misleading title.... Just because there was a high number of cross-over votes, where republicans voted in the democratic primary, this does not mean SW Ohio is officially democratic. Many of the cross over votes were to vote for Clinton, as the republicans feel that a contest between McCain and Clinton is winnable, where as a contest between Obama and McCain will be more challenging.Also, there is a large number of republicans that feel the party has gone too far right and are looking at alternatives, like Obama. But make no mistake, that doesn't necessarily mean that they fully support the democratic ideology or programs like Universal Healthcare or other over bloated government controlled programs, nor does it make them Democrats. There is really a hatred of Clinton from many of these people, so if Clinton becomes the front-runner, many of these people will quickly go back to the republican ticket.
Let's see if I understand this correctly. Obama had Hillary on the ropes after winning 11 straight primaries, and was about to clinch the nomination with Ohio and Texas. Rush Limbaugh calls on his minions to cross-over and vote for her in order to keep the race interesting. And they do so...in droves.What an interesting irony that Mrs. Clinton now owes her tenuous candidacy to the vast right-wing conspiracy. Politics really does make for strange bedfellows.Do you think she'll remember her manners and send Rush a thank-you note? Some cookies perhaps?
Hopefully if she does send cookies they will at least be laced with something that makes him as sick as he makes the most of us.
what are you all whining about when some voters complained in public, on air, online about problems with the elections..being locked out, no ballts, did any official do anything..nah..ain't a gonna happen around here.Wake up smell the coffee and do something folks?!??!?
~Women, whites and older voters key to Clinton win in primaryBy Lynn HulseyStaff WriterThursday, March 06, 2008 DAYTON — Sen. Hillary Clinton won the Democratic presidential primary in Ohio by rediscovering her base and then some, according to an exit poll of Ohio voters compiled by Edison/Mitosfky on Tuesday, March 4.And with the next big-state primary looming on April 22 in Pennsylvania, which is in many ways Ohio's demographic doppelganger, that may bode well for Clinton.The exit poll of 1,612 voters across Ohio found Clinton's base stayed close to home. For example:• She won with women, 57 percent to Obama's 41 percent.• She won the older vote, with results nearly transposed, 69 percent of those older than 60 voting for Clinton and 61 percent of those ages 17 to 29 voting for Obama.• And Clinton had strong support among whites, 64 percent, to Obama's 34 percent.The exit poll also showed Obama holding on to his black voter base: He won 88 percent of black women, 87 percent of black men and 88 percent of black Democrats.Although that cost Clinton several of the state's urban centers, she easily made up those votes by winning majorities or doing very well across many demographic categories and among voters that conventional wisdom had placed in Obama's camp.For example:• Clinton took the majority of the vote in every family income category measured.• As expected, she won among voters who consider the economy or health care the country's top issues. But she also did well among voters concerned about the issue Obama has used against her most — the war in Iraq, which she voted to authorize. Clinton took 49 percent of those voters to Obama's 50 percent.• Clinton won more votes than Obama among liberal voters, along with moderates. The candidates tied at 48 percent with conservatives.• Obama was thought to have a wrap on independents, but Clinton lost by just 2 percentage points, 48 percent to 50 percent, among those voters.Contact this reporter at (937) 225-7455 or hulsey@DaytonDailyNews.com.####
FYI...Rush may've suggested the cross-over but many of his listeners were ahead of him with that notion...like me...I don't need a Limbaugh to help me form my thoughts and make up my mind much to the disbelief of LIBS who liken his listeners as being zombies in a trance when he speaks and follow his "marching orders".Hillary could never thank a Right winger...the vast Right Wing conspiracy came out for her Tuesday and she won't acknowledge it.Were it not for the RIGHT,she'd've folded her tent by Wednesday afternoon.
"The vast right wing conspiracy came out for her Tuesday and she won't acknowledge it." WTF Are you suggesting she say thanks? I would suggest anyone expecting a thank you to rethink their flawed logic. Additionally, I would say to anyone who did cross over from the republican side to vote for Hillary over Obama as a weeker and more beatable candidate, you are a feebile minded foolish racist bigot. Sounds to me like some great PR for your party in the general election. It's people like you who will be the death of the republican party. Anyone who looks at their options in November will take a long hard look at what the GOP has done to this country for the last 8 years, then look at McBush and his 100 year war and say NO WAY. If McBush is the best your party can come up with as a viable option the Democrats will win hands down. I doubt McBush even survives the campaig season, he can't speak, has a bad temper, all his friends are lobyist, and oh yes he's like a 102 years old. Not a chance in heck he will win. So you crossover voters watch out what you wish because a Democrat will win.
Anonymous 12:24REPUBLICANS SWITCHING OVER TO VOTE FOR HER AS A SABOTAGE TATIC PUSHED HER OVER THE TOP ESPECIALLY HERE IN HAMILTON,CLERMONT, AND BUTLER COUNTIES...PERIOD!
WE NEED TO BACK A CANDIDATE AGAINST HARTMANN AND REBUKE THE BURKE-PORTUNE DEAL!!!! BRING BACK GREG HARRIS!
the simple answer is to get rid of open primaries. if you're not a democrat, you can't vote in the democratic primary. if you're not insane, you can't vote in the republican primary.
"the simple answer is to get rid of open primaries. if you're not a democrat, you can't vote in the democratic primary. if you're not insane, you can't vote in the republican primary."That is a STUPID idea! You are then forcing the independents to make a choice beforehand. And there are many who think that both parties suck. And this holds true with the democratic party. What we need is to have a multi-party system, not a two party where one is achored by the religous conservatives and the other is achnored by the leftist socialists!
This is just the warmup to November when even more swing and independent voters than ever combine with the new Democratic plurality to not just defeat the right-wing nutjobs, but to drive the organization out of business. Let's take America back from the special inerests and take Christianity back from the hucksters!
I'm all for a multiparty system. This would ensure that the conservatives get NOTHING, as two thirds of the country could care less about the conservative agenda it would always be the minority party. How do we get this ball rolling.
SW Ohio is now democrat and with Mallory's leadership Cincinnati will soon be Detroit.
Is it too late to get Harris back into the race against Hartman? It's is painfully clear that Burke and Portune miscalculated in pressuring him to drop out.
hey 1:25...wow! mt crossover vote makes me a racist bigot! yippee!!!!what do I have to do be a homophobe,too? I want the trifecta pal!
Let's see...if I don't vote for the woman, I'm sexist. If I don't vote for the Black man, I'm racist. If I don't vote for the old guy, I'm ageist. Can someone tell me which thought crime carriest the least penalty? Since we look to have some communist or another running the show next year, I suspect such things will be death penalty offences. (Don't worry, they'll still oppose the death penalty for child rapists and murderers).
Hamilton County / Sothwest Ohio is now Democratic. Maybe now we can get rid of the Republican machine in southwest Ohio that has resulted in a greater population loss in this one area than in all of the nation. In addition to the highest taxes in the State of Ohio. The Repubs have really screwed things up lets hope they leave ASAP! There is hope!
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