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Friday, February 15, 2008

Clinton: Obama ad misleading

Minutes after her campaign event at the Skyline Chili parlor in Oakley Friday morning, Hilliary Clinton did a short interview with the Enquirer from her campaign bus. Some of the highlights:

A Barack Obama TV ad running in Ohio, Clinton said, is making a claim that is not true - that Obama has a health care plan that would cover all Americans.

"There are many experts - independent experts, we could provide you with a long list of them - who will tell you that what Sen. Obama has proposed will leave 15 million Americans without health insurance,'' Clinton said.

Her plan, she said, would allow any uninsured American to choose from one of the 250 plans now offered to members of Congress and their staffs.

The Obama campaign put out a statement later saying his plan is, in fact, "universal health" which would cut health care costs by up to $2,500 for the average family.

But Clinton insisted that there is nothing universal about Obama's plan.

"Universal health care has been a core value of the Democratic party since Harry Truman," Clinton said. Obama, she said, is "throwing in the towel on universal health care before the fight even begins. I don't undertstand that."

Clinton spoke with Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory before the Oakley event. Mallory is one of Ohio's uncommitted "superdelegates." He is being wooed by both campaigns - he plans to meet with Michelle Obama before the candidate's wife speaks at a 6 p.m. Obama rally at Music Hall.

Clinton said she and Mallory talked "mostly about my plans to help America's cities and his own agenda for this city. The kind of things the mayor wants to do here fits right in with my own ideas."

"Obviously, it would be wonderful to have his support,'' Clinton said. "But I am looking forward to working with him when I become president no matter who he supports."

The New York senator also said that Republicans who believe she will be easier to defeat in the fall than Obama are misreading her.

"The facts just don't bear that out,'' Clinton said. "I have beaten back Republican attacks before. I have surived the onslaught."


at 5:19 PM, February 15, 2008 Anonymous factchecker said...

Factcheck.org is a respected nonpartisan site:

"Obama is being misleading when he says his proposal would "cover everyone. It would make coverage available to all, but experts we consulted estimate that 15 million to 26 million wouldn't take it up unless required to do so."
Read the entire article- the above quote is followed up with even more details on why his ad is misleading.

at 8:45 PM, February 15, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama is also saying that "he can change Washington and change the world". WHAT A GUY. I feel safer already.

at 10:36 PM, February 15, 2008 Anonymous UHC4ME said...


Krugman: Clinton, Obama, Insurance
"Mr. Gruber finds that a plan without mandates, broadly resembling the Obama plan, would cover 23 million of those currently uninsured, at a taxpayer cost of $102 billion per year. An otherwise identical plan with mandates would cover 45 million of the uninsured — essentially everyone — at a taxpayer cost of $124 billion. Over all, the Obama-type plan would cost $4,400 per newly insured person, the Clinton-type plan only $2,700.

That doesn't look like a trivial difference to me. One plan achieves more or less universal coverage; the other, although it costs more than 80 percent as much, covers only about half of those currently uninsured."

at 1:06 AM, February 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clinton is a scary megalomaniac who wants to take over health care. Let her run for prime minister of Canada, or president of Cuba

at 10:16 AM, February 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...


Hillary Clinton has Flip Flopped on the campaign trail, the same as she has during her tenure as senator.

She has taken different positions depending on what she thinks the people want to hear. Stealing

The ideals and policies other candidates seem to be successful with.

There is a major problem with doing so. She does not give the American people benefit of doubt, being

able to see through the false pretence and deception, so common with her past experience in political office.

Now she uses John Edwards issues as if they have been her own. We see what is missing. True
principals, conviction, and moral values.

Obama has been the candidate of change from the very beginning. People coming together
with excitement for change. Thus she starts a change campaign, that voting for a woman is change. Some what naïve if she herself believes that. We see how polarized she is.

She also says she will challenge special interest groups, yet she has accepted more funds from those special interest groups then any other candidate.

The educated, informed, and employed vote for Obama, according to all exit polls.

They also show that the uneducated, uninformed,
unemployed vote for Clinton.

If you don’t know the facts, check them out before casting a vote. We do not need another term like the last several terms.

Question: A republican ask if the “blue dress” will be displayed at the Clinton library.

at 1:49 PM, February 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mallory loves this delegate stuff. Gives him something to do.

at 8:29 PM, February 16, 2008 Blogger ddcal said...

Hillary Clinton is at it again. The truth is that Obama’s health care proposal is really not so different from her own on the issues that matter – although she has done her best to make it appear that way. Clinton claims mandates are necessary to achieve universal coverage. Many experts do not agree; some estimate that mandates would affect only 3% of the population (Reich, WSJ, 2/9/08, p.A15). Furthermore, mandates are controversial; they could sink new health reform efforts (as they did when Clinton proposed them in 1993), and generate large costs without making care affordable (as they're currently doing in Massachusetts). In California, proposed mandatory coverage was recently killed because of fears workers would be forced to buy policies they could not afford.

The deeper problem is relying on private insurance for health reform. Insurance horror stories abound. Perhaps with new alliances and skilled political leadership, this problem can be addressed. Obama certainly has the best shot at it.

Let's not let Hillary snooker us into thinking that a plan without mandates means we're "throwing in the towel on universal health care." Obama is far more likely to get there than she is.

at 8:36 PM, February 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Until someone asks her if she thinks her husband raped Juanita Broderick, she is getting a pass from the media.

at 10:21 PM, February 16, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor Zero is a "super delegate"?? Just think about that for a few seconds.

How can my dog Flufffy get to be a "super delegate"??

at 11:54 AM, February 17, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least not in the past

at 6:35 PM, February 17, 2008 Blogger LadyofMtAiry said...

The legacy of Bush's "swiftboaters" and their lack of civility in politics will live on long after he is gone but not forgotten due to record deficits and corrupted justice system.

Even religion has been corrupted under Bush.The words
"compassionate conservatism"
reminds us of the cynical use of Evangelical Christians by this administration.

Yet, many are still so fixated on a "blue dress" and titilating sexual remarks that they cannot see that the legacy Bush leaves behind will be words like "torture", Abu Gharib, record deficits, terrorists,
Guantanimo,waterboarding,and many other words that make citizens ashamed of this country.But not one "blue dress".OH joy.

at 1:16 AM, February 18, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't mess with the Clintonistas. Just ask Vince Foster's widow.

at 1:27 AM, February 18, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Queen Hitlery Rodram Clinton and Barry Obama are a couple of unqualified hack politicians. I wouldn't trust either one of them to run a lemonade stand, let alone the USA.

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