Clermont County's ballots
Jon Craig brings you the sage of the missing ballots in Sunday's Enquirer. You can also read it here.
Meanwhile...
The groups behind the lawsuit say they have uncovered evidence of possible tampering in Clermont County, a traditionally Republican-leaning county where Bush won easily.
For example: oval-shaped stickers were inexplicably found on at least 10 ballots in Clermont County, for several several state and local races as well as president and the same-sex marriage ballot issue.
The tiny white stickers would have blocked an optical scanner from counting a vote for the pencil mark that’s visible below. Two of those ballots from Pierce Township were preserved and observed by Enquirer reporters Thursday.
Brian Green, an elections attorney at Brunner’s office, confirmed that the stickered presidential ballot – which negated a vote for Kerry – is perplexing and that the Bush oval above it clearly has a darker, wider pencil mark. None of the other ovals marked on the two-page ballot are as dark or outside the oval to the same extent.
Clermont County elections officials said they no longer use stickers to remake spoiled or mismarked ballots. The county has since purchased newer optical scanners that would not count stickered ballots.
Clermont County Board of Elections Director Mike Keeley, who became director in March 2006, said he is unaware of anyone misusing stickers during the 2004 election. The county’s newer optical scanning equipment would not count votes if stickers were placed on ballots today, he said.
“That would show as an invalid ballot,” he said Thursday. “That was old equipment, old procedures, old process.”
The county’s former Board of Elections director, Daniel Bare, did not return phone calls for comment, but Bob Drake of Anderson Township, a mathematical education professor at the University of Cincinnati, signed a sworn affidavit saying Bare and other county election workers acknowledged stickers were used to cover stray marks on ballots during the 2004 election.
In an interview with The Enquirer, Drake said he and others “noticed some ballots had stickers completely covering (a) Kerry vote. A different shade of pencil where the Bush bubble was filled in. ... There should’ve been an investigation. There was criminal activity.”
Brunner attributed the sticker problems more to inconsistencies in county procedures statewide, something she aims to iron out.
The checkmark present next to the Issue 1 oval is of concern to her, she said, because if it was there before the paper ballot was run through an opti-scan machine, that vote would not have been counted.
Brunner had no firsthand knowledge about the two stickered ballots, but said her staff is committed to painstakingly examining any lingering questions or concerns about 2004, while working to improve future elections.
24 Comments:
Great story! I liked it better the first time I read back when the Cincinnati Beacon covered it last September.
http://www.cincinnatibeacon.com/index.php/content/comments/professor_bob_drake_distributing_photos_of_altered_2004_ballots/
Keep up the great work Carl!
BTW, who was the "expert" that you asked if there was a conspiacy in the 2004 election and they said no?
You've never answered though you've been repeatedly asked.
Weiser's always a day late and dollar short on the real news - and that's a good day. Generally Weiser is the keeper of the mantra - no news is good news for Cincinnatians.
Watch 'em get scoped again this week - not that reporters aren't trying - Weiser just won't allocate them the time to do the big stuff.
It's a shame - for us.
Give me a break. People are as stupid as you idiot "reporters" think!
Check every state in the US that has tried to, or has enacted voter id laws. Guess who squeals like a stuck pig every single time?
I'll give you a hint. It's not the GOP elephant, its the dim donkey.
Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself.
How's that for "speaking truth to power"?
So THAT is how Tim Rudd managed to deliver the election for Jean Schmidt.
Now it makes perfect sense.
We cringe every time we think about the terror going on in that building !
Seems to be an attack on our constitution !
Unfortunately, the oath only states to the best of your ability will you honor, obey, and defend !
When your a wRong wingnut whacko those abilities are limited !
PATHETIC !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !
The election has been over long ago. Make a note of it for the future but get over it!
EXCELLENT REPORTING!
Are we living in a banana republic? As a citizen, I am appalled at the blatant disregard for the law by government officials. A federal judge ordered the ballots be preserved. Why would they be destroyed unless there was some malfeasance to cover? Here we see some of that malfeasance.
I urge folks to contact AG Dann and ask for full enforcement of the law:
State Office Tower
ATTN: Marc Dann, Ohio Attorney General
30 E. Broad Street, 17th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215-3428
"The election has been over long ago. Make a note of it for the future but get over it!"
I know I should just "get over it", but something about stolen elections, a cover up and a system that's still broken won't let me.
If you're too stupid to understand the importance of this story and what it means for our country then maybe you are a part of the problem.
This wasn't the first stolen election and unless we wake up and do something about it we will continue to live in a country that isn't democratic.
Typical wRong wingnut whacko spewing the elephant dung propaganda !
What have you been smoking ?
Once again, we become the number 1 topic of discussion !
We be hat-pen'n' !
PATHETIC !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !
I don't necessarily believe the election was stolen - but I don't understand how government officials aren't expected to obey a court order like the rest of us. Any controversy has been created and confidence broken by these election officials. They need to stand before the judge, not the Secretary of State, and account for why they failed to protect the records, being convicted, and lose their jobs to someone who will do their job - not just do "their best" to do it.BS
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"...1:55 PM, August 12, 2007..."
The use less, html stalking, sock-puppet, idiot strikes again !
We must be doing something write when the wRong wingnut whackos make us their number 1 concern through emulation and discussion !
Thank you for placing us on that pedestal with your admiration !
Now, go back to slinging that elephant dung !
The public is well aware that we are the nuber 1 to beat !
The wRong wingnut whackos are to stupid to realize the fishwRap has their IP address !
Guess what, so do we !
hee hee hee hee hee
What is that planet suzi site you keep visiting ?
Oh yes, family values indeed !
PATHETIC HYPOCRITES !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !
Oh, brother... this should be fun. 30 replies of the radical libs parrotting the "stole election" bull.
Polly want a cracker. Lib want some kool-aid.
Misallocation of voting machines, purges targeting high Dem counties, last minute directives needing court decisions, challenging Af Am voters, fake "homeland security alerts"-level 10 no less, in Warren County, "computer glitches" votes in Gahanna-all in favoring b/c, white stickers with each one adding 2 (taking one from Kerry and adding one to b is a net gain of 2 )to b/c, nearly half of tested voting machines in Montgomery County FAILING and of course DESTRUCTION OF BALLOTS IN 54 OUT OF 88 COUNTIES DESPITE A COURT ORDER.
We should get over it?
BTW, regarding the voter ID laws. If you have been following the US Attorney scandal you would know that the GOP attempted to force cases on voters (individuals as opposed to the actual election fraud) despite lack of evidence. Read up on why Republican NM USA Inglais was fired. Read up on wht Former Chair of the Civil Rights Division of the voting section in the Dept of Justice resigned. Republicans with moral fiber stand up to what is occuring.
so liberals made the ballot w/ Ralph
Nader on it? Even though he was
ruled off the ballot in Sept.?
Liberals put stickers on the ballot
that stopped the vote from being counted
for John Kerry?
2 things ....
this country was founded by
liberals .... the conservatives were loyal
to the king.
get over a stolen presidential election?
never.
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"....Polly want a cracker..."
Typical wRong wingnut whacko spewing the elephant dung propaganda !
The sock-puppet seems to be spaced out on that 'bush whacky powder' !
Continue goose-steping to that dick-trader that keeps bringing you that 'folley fondling' pleasure !
PATHETIC HYPOCRITES !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !
Anonymous at 9:41 PM said...
The election has been over long ago. Make a note of it for the future but get over it!
Anonymous at 7:52 PM said...
Oh, brother... this should be fun. 30 replies of the radical libs parrotting the "stole election" bull.
Polly want a cracker. Lib want some kool-aid.
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RIGHT! GET OVER IT! Tell that to the families of all of the US soldiers and Marines who have been killed and seriously injured since the 2004 stolen Presidential Elections. Tell that to the 650,000+ DEAD IRAQIS!!!
American Military Casualties in Iraq
Since war began (3/19/03): 3689
American Wounded - Official Count: 27279
American Wounded - Estimated 23000 - 100000
COME ON! GET OVER IT WILL YOU?
Tell that to all of the US citizens who have had their civil rights trampled on by the corrupt and fascistic Bush administration. Tell that to the detainees in Gitmo who have been tortured because they happened to be 'goat herders' who were turned over by Afghani warlords for a hefty bounty!
Tell it to those tortured and detained at CIA Black Sites across Europe!
Tell it to those thousands upon thousands of our ancestors who fought and died for this country and the belief in the democratic voting process!
If you think we should get over an obvious stolen election in what is claimed to be a 'democratic republic" you are a pathetic excuse for a US citizen!
CATCH MY DRIFT?
"The wRong wingnut whackos are to stupid to realize the fishwRap has their IP address !"
hahahaha. "to stupid"?
do you mean "too stupid"?
ohhhhhh i love liberal hypocrisy!
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE REPUBLICAN 2007 & 2008!!!!!!!!!
you're right 7:52. we should skip the parrotting and just move on to impeachment for crimes against humanity.
For those who believe we should "move on", I'd like to remember it was unfair, unverifiable elections that got us here in the first place. Regardless of what party is in power, we should have elections that can be trusted through verification. Right now we don't. We need to expose the system in order to correct it.
Anonymous 12:17 says to move on to the bigger crimes, but those crimes all started due to the corrupted election system. In order for real justice to occur, the truth must be exposed and fully corrected from the start-elections.
Bold boy said,
"We must be doing something write "
Does write = right???
LoL!!
Looks like you got the same miserable public school education!!!
Those Doc Martins get a little heavy marching through all of the Soros and R.Ron Algore dung. Take a little break and hydrate!!!
"Bob Drake of Anderson Township, a mathematical education professor at the University of Cincinnati"
Isn't this the same goofy Bob Drake that is a perennial Democratic candidate for public office?
How do you rig ballots when the BOEs are staffed by Rs and Ds? There are Rs and Ds overseeing all aspects of the operations.
BTW, the misallocated voting machines issues were in democrat counties, where a democrat runs the BOE-and decides where to "allocate" voting machines. Not the Secretary of State.
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"...How do you rig ballots when the BOEs are staffed by Rs and Ds? There are Rs and Ds overseeing all aspects of the operations...."
You close the doors with a fake terrorist attack threat !
Then, you only let the wRong wingnut whackos in !
Why did you not keep up on the news and issues, Mr. Naive ?
PATHETIC !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !
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"...Does write = right???..."
Typical wRong wingnut whacko spewing the red-neck, uneducated, elephant dung propaganda !
Third grade Language Arts: PUN !
write, as in blog, Get it 'bush whacko" ?
PATHETIC !
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2007 !
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