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Thursday, April 12, 2007

Cole & Cooper discuss Imus

This from City Hall reporter Jane Prendergast:

Cincinnati City Councilwoman Laketa Cole and former vice mayor Minette Cooper meet this afternoon with a group of African-American and white leaders to talk about the controversy surrounding Don Imus. The radio show host is under fire for referring to Rutgers University women basketball players as “nappy-headed hoes.”

Cole made a reference to the Imus comments during City Council’s discussion Wednesday about a possible march in Over-the-Rhine by a neo-Nazi group. Cooper is a candidate for City Council. The meeting is at 2 p.m. at City Hall.


30 Comments:

at 12:17 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What we find ironic, in our white bread world, is that:

“nappy-headed hoes.”

is heard in the black community, not the white community.

This is the first time we heard a "white" use that phrase, but, it is certainly not the first time we have heard the statement !

Why is that ?

Community pride begins at home !

Perhaps, there is some house cleaning to do ?

Don't be offended by terms utilized within your own home-boy hood !

What are we getting all "jacked-up" about ?

"RESPECT" begins at "HOME" !

Should we follow the principle:

Do as I say, not as I do ?

Sounds, "bush whacko" to us !

PATHETIC !

 
at 1:02 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL Well, I think I can say without hesitation that the term "nappy headed hoe" did NOT originate in the neo-nazi community. So, I don't know why Cole would make reference to it in discussing the nazi march.

Ms. Cole should ride the #4 Metro for a day or two. I promise you: she'll hear " nappy headed" this and " nappy headed" that, all day long, and not once spoken by a white person.

I would suggest that the black community might clean their own house before they, in a state of SHOCK SHOCK, demand the heads of Imus and others.

 
at 1:41 PM, April 12, 2007 Blogger Unknown said...

Clearly there's no other issues to be dealt with in the city if these two elected and publicly funded officials are wasting time and tax dollars even discussing a non-local and dead horse issue like Imus. Who honestly cares what they have to say about it? Their job is to solve the city's NUMEROUS problems, not get in the fray on an overblown, topic du jour.

 
at 1:44 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope these two ladies whip it up on the local shock jocks who make racist and sexist remarks constantly

If you organize something - let us know- every woman, college student and athlete should jump on this band wagon- it is time, it is overdue and it can be done

 
at 2:58 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best commentary I have heard was given by the Rutgers woman's team coach. She spoke on MSNBC's Countdown last evening for ~ 5 minutes in a VERY moving talk. These woman and all women deserve respect and dignity not racist cheap shots.

I am glad Imus was fired, but I wonder if the decision to fire him was delayed to cover the story of the Pentagon EXTENDING ALL DEPLOYMENTS and the increase in the number of national guard (+ 15,000); the missing RNC emails (compared to Nixon's missing tape) and the shortening of the sentence for Uber Criminal/bush crony Jack Abramoff.

 
at 3:29 PM, April 12, 2007 Blogger Someone said...

If we're going to care about Don Imus here in Cincinnati, what about Jim Schifrin who publishes The Whistleblower? Recently, he called the Mayor a "gay darkie."

Nappy Headed Hos v. Gay Darkies: National v. Local Responses to Racist Language

 
at 3:32 PM, April 12, 2007 Blogger Brah Coon said...

Now I'm really confused. Is the correct spelling Hoe or Ho?

I need to learn this stuff.

 
at 4:32 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Dean, let's face it - he damn sure ain't no Satchel Paige.

 
at 4:44 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Chuck Kane published the 'Blower

 
at 4:46 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm offended everytime Luise Ferrican opens his mouth. What is Cole and Cooper going to do about that?

 
at 4:56 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Dean,
Why don't you defend "Buckwheat" Blackwell, "Masterbaiting Mike" Barret, TLB Schmidt, Boob Taft and the rest that Shiffrin Trashs?

 
at 5:17 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many people out there even know in which state Rutgers is located?

 
at 6:22 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh good, the absolutely uselss and inert Minette Cooper might be coming back??
Can't we hurry up and change the term limit law to not allow anyone to run again, ever?
I've never seen a more useless waste of a chair than Minette Cooper. These folks are like gum on your shoe--you just can't shake them off...

 
at 8:06 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alright, let's air this out once and for all.

What you say in your home, privately, or between friends is your own business - you only have to be concerned, minimally, with their level of sensitivity.

If I use terms or phrases with family and close associates - that private, my business

But, when you get on the PUBLIC AIR WAVES you have to exercise a level of sensibility affecting everyone -

When you accept money to say what you say on the public air waves - then you face the standards permitted by the corporations and the general consumers.

There is no comparison .

Now as to the rap CDs. These are items that are purchased by private individuals. When played on the public air waves - they ARE censored (maybe not enough)- but you cannot compare private purchases to public airwaves.

That would belike saying, hey we all have sex in our homes, so explicit sex should be on channel 9 during prime time. Or, hey you can buy porno from adult storess so then it's alright to have porno on tv or the radio

Come on folks - this isn't rocket science - this is common decency standards. If youwant to be a racist pig or sexist jerk - keep it to your friends and family don't put it on the air waves we all own.

 
at 8:46 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical wRong wingnut whacko, slinging the elephant dung HTML impersonation !

When the wRong wingnut "followers" have no ideas of their own, they just assume the ideas of "LEADERS" !

Thanks for playing follow the "LEADER" !

lol, lol, lol

PATHETIC !

 
at 10:30 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what about rappers, who often use ho and much worse to refer to women?

 
at 10:33 PM, April 12, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attn: Ron Libeau and Enquirer political blog writers.

Why don't you ask Tom Brinkman why he openly associates and praises Jim "The Whistleblower" Schifrin who called Mayor Mallory "a gay darkie"? Brinkman has been promoting the openly racist Schifrin for years and he admits to using Schifrin as a political advisor. Why is this acceptable in the 21st century?

As a tie-in to the Imus story, interview Brinkman and ask him if he thinks that calling the mayor "a gay darkie" is acceptable. That's a perfect Enquirer blog item.

 
at 9:45 AM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alicia: LOL I hear that! What " white leaders"? Isn't being a " white leader" illegal or something nowadays? I thought they were all stood up against a wall and shot years ago.

 
at 9:58 AM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still say they ain't got no buoyancy and all 'dat udder stuff.

 
at 10:16 AM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

While this issue of race is an important discussion to have, may I remind everyone that we are involved in an immoral war that was started by a president and his administration who LIED their way into Iraq. THERE WAS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND AL QAEDA. There were no WMDs. The intel suggested it was the wrong decision, but the neocons, who had very limited military experience pushed for war and used LIES to get the country to go along.

Every day members of our military are being killed so that Bush can protect the interests of his oil buddies (if you doubt this comment, just look where the military bases are set up in relation to the oil fields and pipelines). The Republicans have CUT VETERAN BENEFITS, SENT TROOPS INTO BATTLE WITH PROPER PROTECTION AND NOT FULLY TRAINED! Now he is extending all deployments and adding 15,000 more national guard to a failed policy. Why is he attempting to bankrupt our country and break the back of our military? Who is profitting from this war?

The issue of race needs to be moved to the military and elections! Why did the Republican National Committee disenfranchise Af Am soldiers in FL during the 2000 election? Guess who was responsible for this action? Tim Griffin, the man Bush placed without senate approval as a United States Attorney to replace Bud Cummins. Don't trust me, BUT DEFINITELY RESEARCH IT FOR YOURSELF! GOOGLE THE NAMES HERE AND FIND OUT HOW RACE MATTERS TO REPUBLICANS.

AND DON'T FORGET HURRICANE KATRINA!

 
at 2:25 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, but this just out:

Coordination Revealed Between DOJ and GOP Panel Members in Attorneys Probe

A new batch of documents made public today reveals close coordination between the Justice Department and House Judiciary Committee Republicans regarding a March hearing on the dismissals of eight U.S. attorneys.

Two e-mails from Department of Justice officials show they coordinated with GOP staffers on the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative law before the March 6 appearance of six of the fired federal prosecutors and William E. Moschella, principal associate deputy attorney general.

In one message, Richard A. Hertling, acting assistant attorney general, wrote he had received a call from Republican subcommittee staff whom he described as “all geared up and ready to go after the former [U.S. attorney] witnesses coming next week.”

In a separate e-mail, Tasia Scolinos, a Justice Department spokeswoman, said staff “are actively working with the members to tee the right questions up” to Moschella.

The documents are the latest in thousands of pages released by the Justice Department. Democrats complain the information is incomplete and contains too many redactions.

 
at 2:57 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess we realy didn't find the artillery shells loaded with serrin gas,
That high ranking Al Qeada guy that our troops offed was a fake.
Joe kennedy didn't buy the '60 election for Jack
We never went to the Moon
Jesse never called NY "Hymitown" or spit in peoples food.
Mississppi didn't take care of it's self after Katrina.
William Jefferson(D New Orleans) didn't have 90k in his freezer.
DON'T BELEIVE DEM 'LYIN EYES!!!!

 
at 3:35 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 10:16, way to stay on topic, dude. Almost as bad as the bold blogger, without the annoying tripe or formatting.

 
at 4:03 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 3.25,
He's been cheeking his meds

 
at 4:26 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 2:57 pm:

Photo at link

From the National Security Archives:


U.S. DOCUMENTS SHOW EMBRACE OF SADDAM HUSSEIN IN EARLY 1980s

DESPITE CHEMICAL WEAPONS, EXTERNAL AGGRESSION, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES

Fear of Iraq Collapse in Iran-Iraq War Motivated Reagan Administration Support;

U.S. Goals Were Access to Oil, Projection of Power, and Protection of Allies;

Rumsfeld Failed to Raise Chemical Weapons Issue in Personal Meeting with Saddam

Washington, D.C., 25 February 2003 - The National Security Archive at George Washington University today published on the Web a series of declassified U.S. documents detailing the U.S. embrace of Saddam Hussein in the early 1980's, including the renewal of diplomatic relations that had been suspended since 1967. The documents show that during this period of renewed U.S. support for Saddam, he had invaded his neighbor (Iran), had long-range nuclear aspirations that would "probably" include "an eventual nuclear weapon capability," harbored known terrorists in Baghdad, abused the human rights of his citizens, and possessed and used chemical weapons on Iranians and his own people. The U.S. response was to renew ties, to provide intelligence and aid to ensure Iraq would not be defeated by Iran, and to send a high-level presidential envoy named Donald Rumsfeld to shake hands with Saddam (20 December 1983).

The declassified documents posted today include the briefing materials and diplomatic reporting on two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, reports on Iraqi chemical weapons use concurrent with the Reagan administration's decision to support Iraq, and decision directives signed by President Reagan that reveal the specific U.S. priorities for the region: preserving access to oil, expanding U.S. ability to project military power in the region, and protecting local allies from internal and external threats. The documents include:

A U.S. cable recording the December 20, 1983 conversation between Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein. Although Rumsfeld said during a September 21, 2002 CNN interview, "In that visit, I cautioned him about the use of chemical weapons, as a matter of fact, and discussed a host of other things," the document indicates there was no mention of chemical weapons. Rumsfeld did raise the issue in his subsequent meeting with Iraqi official Tariq Aziz.
National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 114 of November 26, 1983, "U.S. Policy toward the Iran-Iraq War," delineating U.S. priorities: the ability to project military force in the Persian Gulf and to protect oil supplies, without reference to chemical weapons or human rights concerns.
National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 139 of April 5, 1984, "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," focusing again on increased access for U.S. military forces in the Persian Gulf and enhanced intelligence-gathering capabilities. The directive calls for "unambiguous" condemnation of chemical weapons use, without naming Iraq, but places "equal stress" on protecting Iraq from Iran's "ruthless and inhumane tactics." The directive orders preparation of "a plan of action designed to avert an Iraqi collapse."
U.S. and Iraqi consultations about Iran's 1984 draft resolution seeking United Nations Security Council condemnation of Iraq's chemical weapons use. Iraq conveyed several requests to the U.S. about the resolution, including its preference for a lower-level response and one that did not name any country in connection with chemical warfare; the final result complied with Iraq's requests.
The 1984 public U.S. condemnation of chemical weapons use in the Iran-Iraq war, which said, referring to the Ayatollah Khomeini's refusal to agree to end hostilities until Saddam Hussein was ejected from power, "The United States finds the present Iranian regime's intransigent refusal to deviate from its avowed objective of eliminating the legitimate government of neighboring Iraq to be inconsistent with the accepted norms of behavior among nations and the moral and religious basis which it claims."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm

Also, for the record, Mississippi didn't have a levee break. BIG DIFFERENCE!

and Target has dictionaries in their dollar bins.

 
at 5:25 PM, April 13, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"African American" is capitalized; "white" isn't? Is this distincition part of the Gannett Style Book?

Jane isn't the only one who does this. Smitherman is extremely fond of dismissing White people by not capitalizing. The Dean at Cincinnati Beacon was recently stung for doing the same thing.

When are high profile people such as Cole, Cooper, Rev. Jesse, Rev. Al, going to take the African American people to task over their filthy language about other people? When are they going to hold them accountable? All one hears is a lot of loud mouth & no action.

In addition to Black music defaming women, mothers, etc., they have no compunction about making racial remarks about Asians - "Chinks", "Gooks", Native Americans - "Savage A$$holes", & I'm not going to continue. It shows how uncultured people are in our society.

I absolutely agree with other posters here - I have never, ever heard a White person call a Black person a "nappy-headed ho". Never.

Certainly, Black society needs to address their house cleaning chores & honest soul searching before they land into the White people. Disrespect for yourself breeds contempt & disrespect from others. The Whites aren't free from sin, but, you don't go sweeping another's step when yours is filthy dirty.

 
at 8:46 PM, April 13, 2007 Blogger Someone said...

"African American" is capitalized; "white" isn't? Is this distincition part of the Gannett Style Book?

This issue is actually totally different from the one with Smitherman's letter. (In that, he capitalized "Black," but not "white.")

Yes, according to modern style sheets, African American is capitalized, and neither white nor black is.

Here is an example from a style sheet:

"Keep in mind a few style considerations related to the use of racial and ethnic terms. When identifying race, do not capitalize black or white. Do capitalize African American, Asian, Native American, Latino, Chicano, Caucasian, and other specific racial or ethnic groupings of people. "

Source

 
at 10:44 AM, April 14, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Annoy 4.26,
Roslynn Carter had her picture taken with Jim Jones And John Wayne Gacey, so I am compelled to deduce that she could be involved in serial killings and mass murder.

As for Mississppi, your right, they didn't have a levy break, and they also didn't loot or shoot at emergency personel.

I gave up shopping at Target when they kicked the Salvation Army to the curb.

 
at 9:01 PM, April 15, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cole and Cooper: aahh, just hear their names and the aura of utter political uselessness envelops my desk...
What an incredible wasted duo.

 
at 10:53 PM, September 04, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never forget "flip flopping" Mrs. Minnette Cooper. you once actively sought the gay vote and after using our resources you turned around and voted against making gay bashing a hate crime when Todd Portune proposed doing so. Remember that? WELL LET'S REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY....YOU VOTED AGAINST MAKING GAY BASHING A HATE CRIME BUT THEN A FEW YEARS LATER YOU VOTED FOR THE MEASURE WHEN JOHN CRANLEY PROPOSED IT BECAUSE I GUESS THE "TIMING WAS RIGHT?" WERE YOU INFLUENCED BY DWIGHT TILLERY THE FIRST TIME AROUND? TOO LITTLE TOO LATE..I'M AFRAID...MRS. COOPER. LESLIE GHIZ, FOR EX. IS A REPUBLICAN WHO NEVER FLIP-FLOPPED ON THE GAY ISSUE EVEN THOUGH IT COST HER BEING APPOINTED BY SAM MALONE.FOR CITY COUNCIL....TOO LITTLE TOO LATE MRS. COOPER........YOU APPARENTLY DON'T EVEN SHOW RESPECT FOR YOUR OWN BACKYARD (CHECK CITYBEAT ARCHIVES)...I'M AFRAID ME AND MY VOTING FRIENDS WON'T BE "HANGING WITH MRS. COOPER" THIS ELECTION DAY.

 
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