Wulsin still trying to win
Democrat Victoria Wulsin isn't giving up on her race to unseat Republican Rep. Jean Schmidt in Ohio's 2nd Congressional District.
Wulsin sent out a news release today announcing that her campaign and the Ohio Democratic Party were launching a massive effort Tuesday to make sure 8,600 ballots that remained uncounted as of Monday, are counted.
But the race now hinges on lawyers and the daunting task of identifying voters in the seven-county district who voted with a provisional ballot.
About 2,800 votes currently separate Schmidt and Wulsin.
At issue, according to Wulsin’s campaign, are ballots in which poll workers failed to ask voters for the last four digits of their Social Security numbers, as required by law.
Campaign spokesman Bryan Collinsworth said voters have until Friday to call the board of elections in their county and make sure their ballots have the required information to be counted.
But Schmidt chief of staff Barry Bennett disputed the campaign’s claim, saying voters can’t go back and update their ballots or provide missing forms of ID. He said he expects the uncounted ballots to break along the same percentages as the ballots that were counted, giving Schmidt a net total of about 500 votes more than Wulsin.
“This is a desperate cry for help that is both not a correct interpretation of the law and not helpful to them in the end,” he said. “They just don’t get mathematics.”
Nevertheless, Wulsin’s campaign and the Hamilton County Democratic Party are spending this week on the phone calling registered voters in the precincts where the highest number of provisional ballots were cast.
In addition, the campaign is launching a wave of automated phone calls to votes across the district.
They also have joined the Ohio Democratic Party, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and campaign of Mary Jo Kilroy, a Columbus Democrat whose race also remained too close to call this week, in a lawsuit seeking to compel the county boards of elections to release lists of voters who cast provisional ballots.
“This race is so close, and almost 9,000 voters who spoke out on election day have yet to have their voices heard,” Wulsin said in a statement. “We believe we can win. We also believe that no one who made the effort to vote should be disenfranchised by confusion at the polls.”
UPDATE: The Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University has created a "recount roundup" which lists the Ohio 2nd as one of the top 10 recount races to watch. CLICK HERE for the roundup.
ANOTHER UPDATE:
Wulsin campaign's Collinsworth: "Maybe we 'don't get mathematics,' but I'm also concerned about Barry Bennett's ability to read."
From the Ohio Secretary of State's Web site: "A person who casts a provisional ballot and does not provide acceptable proof of identity at the time of voting is allowed to provide such proof within 10 days after the election, in accordance with law."
More Collingsworth: "I don't know how else to interpret that. But I certainly don't want the Schmidt campaign discouraging people from getting their votes counted."
31 Comments:
It's clear that Victoria Wulsin didn't take any math classes in medical school.
At least Victoria Wulsin went to school!
wow vic. you sure know how to lose gracefully.
How sad. Dr. Wells/Wulsin should see a Doctor about this.
It's clear that Victoria Wulsin didn't take any math classes in medical school.
Bennett obviously didn't take any Introductory to Law and doesn't know how to read a:
Consent Order
Keywords:
Statistics !
Probability !
Odds are, Wulsin the Victor !
No amount of math can fix election rigging...but go get 'em Vic.
It's cler that the Republicans still want to disenfranchise as many voters as possible. How unamerican and traitorous is that?
Provisionals are still votes and every vote should be counted in a democracy. The Republicans pretend they want democracy abroad, but do everything they can to block African American votes with private partisan companies and partisan officials.
This is the best thing Wulsins ever done. Go Girl!
Gee, what's clear to me is that Ohio 2 was gerrymandered to attempt to create a permanently Republican House seat. That Schmidt didn't run away with the vote relates to her candidacy, qualifications, and behavior as a legislator. She's known as 'Mean Jean' across the country. As a junor minority party member, her ability to sway fellow Housemembers will be nil unless she is able to get new administrative staff. She's known as an intellectual lightweight with an angry, vindictive streak whose litmus test is religious bigotry.
Counting ALL the votes seems to be a Patriotic duty, whoever wins. I hope that the vaunted Republican GOTV in Ohio is not found to have altered the apparent result. Voters have been too forgiving in recent corruption cases.
schmidts statement that wulsin doesn't know the math is disingenous at best and downright shameful at worst. given the history of gop voter suppression, the left turned to absentee and provisional ballots to make sure their vote was counted.
its time for schmidt and her goons to stfu and let the process complete.
Dear Jean $chmidt,
Am I mistaken or did somebody on your staff attack your opponent and say that "they just don't know their math"???
Every vote should be counted in every election. You would have called for the same thing if you were losing the race. There are not only problems with the trustworthiness of politicians. There are also problems with the trustworthiness of election results in this country. Right now, there is a Republican House Candidate in Florida who won his election by 380 votes. He ran in, of all place Katherine Harris' old district. And guess what... One of the counties generated electronic voting results that showed that 18,000 people who actually voted generated electronic results that did not include the vote that they cast for US Representative. Many of these people stated that they did vote for US Representative and some of them even told the poll workers that there wasn't a vote printed on their printout even though they put a "X" in the box. These results show a 10 to 1 discrepancy with what is normally expected in that part of that Florida district. There are problems with elections in America today. So people have the right to question results.
But back to your comment about "the math". Let's talk math...
Do you know the number of American soldiers who have lost their lives in Iraq beause they were sent there to "get the weapons"?
Do you know how many years it will be before the Medicare Trust fund becomes insolvent? Do you know how much senior citizens will have to pay out of their own pockets because the US Congress didn't know how to do the "math" necessary to save Medicare now?
Do you know how much it costs to buy a gallon of gasoline today vs. the ninety nine cents a gallon that it used to cost when Bill Clinton was President?
Do you know how many young people have had to move away from Ohio to find jobs elsewhere in America during the past couple years?
Do you know how a group of US Congressional Representatives can turn a budget surplus into a record high budget deficit in a matter of a few years?
How's the math going with the US trade deficit these days? China sure seems to like that math.
Please ask your staff members to stop attacking people who decide to run against you and ask them to start doing some math homework of their own...
Here's a math question... Do you know how many people I plan to personally meet and talk with during the next several years in Adams, Brown, Clermont, Hamilton, Pike, Scioto, and Warren Counties? Although, I might never run for office again, I sure do like the people that I've had the chance to meet.
Have a nice day.
Jim Parker
Former Democratic Candidate for US Congress
Southern Ohio - 2nd District
2005 & 2006...
It's time for Victoria Wulsin to go back to researching AIDS and practicing Voodoo medicine.
It's clear Jean Schmidt didn't take any classes what so ever. That woman is stupid.
Barry Bennett - Schmidt's Chief of Staff doesn't want all the votes counted. DO YOU?
Should your vote count?
Call them and let them know if you believe in democratic process.
Peter Bronson had it spot on when he described "Icky Vicky" as "a candidate so weak she doesn't know when the election is over."
So do those here who comment that Dr Wulsin should just go back to medicine not believe every vote should be counted including absentees and improperly issued provisionals?
Perhaps you folks need to go back to civics classes and brush up on democracy. No candidate should ever concede until every vote is counted.
The tag line on this blog entry is biased. Wulsin either already won, or didn't, but what she's trying to do now is get an accurate and complete vote count, including the provisionals that were case, in accordance with Ohio law.
It's truly sad that a candidate has to fight for that, and get tarred and feathered by partisan nitwits publicly misrepresenting the matter in the process. However, she can handle it.
its unfortunate that instead of a dialog about jim parkers questions all we got was mean jean slime.
The votes are being counted and Schmidt's margin is increasing. She's gained 500 votes, or a quarter per cent. I voted for Wulsin, but the innumerate loonies who are crying disenfranchisement have yet to offer a scenario where Wulsin pull it out. Where will a net 2,800 vote gain for Wulsin come from? Her margin in Hamilton county was only 10%. At that rate, she would need to find 28,000 absentee and provisional votes in Hamilton county. The process will complete, Schmidt will win, and all the juvenile tantrums from the recount crown will leave liberals looking bad. Less emotion, more reason, guys.
The reality is that some of our disproportionately elderly poll workers did not understand the new voter ID rules and mistakenly had legitimate voters cast provisional rather than regular ballots.
Our elected officials should be elected by voters not decided by poll worker mistakes.
Democracy should not be about partisan advantage.
When is a provisional ballot NOT a provisional ballot?
When a poll worker incorrectly applied Ohio law or the terms of the November 1st Consent Order.
Ohio Provisional Ballots: New Consent Order
November 14, 2006
Late today Judge Algenon Marbley of the federal district court here in
Columbus entered an order agreed upon by the parties in NEOHC v. Blackwell.
The order, a little over four pages in length, sets forth some basic
procedures regarding the evaluation and counting of provisional ballots that
were cast anywhere in Ohio last Tuesday
Acknowledging that “some poll workers incorrectly required voters” to cast a
provisional ballot even when they presented appropriate ID in accordance
with the court’s previous consent order, including by failing to accept a
driver’s license as a valid ID even when it did not contain the voter’s
current address, the new order mandates that these provisional ballots
“shall automatically be counted as regular ballots.” Otherwise, the new
order reiterates that county boards of elections should follow the previous
consent order’s “eight-factor” test for determining whether a provisional
ballot qualifies to be counted.
Full text: http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/news/articles.php?ID=60
Hey Howard - I don't buy your story of having voted for Wulsin. Furthermore, who exactly is claiming disenfranchisement or talking about recounts ? Nobody here that I can see. They haven't even finished the first count yet, and until there is a complete and certified count, all we have is politicized speculation about who the winner might be.
Hey Anonymous,
crtl-f: "recount"
crtl-f: "disenfranchise"
Who is talking about declaring a winner? Of course the election isn't certified yet. But neither is any race in the country. Are you saying the Dems didn't take the House, didn't take the Senate? Is that just a bunch of speculation?
There is no scenario where Wulsin wins. No reason to think that the remaining provisionals will break 2-1 in her favor. If you cry wolf now, no one will listen when there is fraud.
Democracy demands every legitimate vote be counted.
Federal court agreed yesterday in its Enforcement Order that many pollworker's incorrectly required voters to cast a provisional ballot.
You may recall even Steve Chabot had that problem on Election Day in Westwood.
I just had lunch today with a Clermont County resident who was made to vote provisionally. According to the pollworker her 60-day notice was returned to the board of elections (BOE) as undeliverable. Thing is, she's lived at the same address and had the same phone number for 17 years! While the Revised Code requires the BOE to investigate such matters (Sec. 3503.19) it appears they didn't do so in this case.
My friend wants her vote counted. Democracy demands every legitimate vote be counted.
Howard Lipschitz wrote: "There is no scenario where Wulsin wins."
Sure there is. The uncounted votes are larger than Schmidts' current margin, so Wulsin could simply catch up. Another scenario is that the previously reported count changes due to machine or human error or tabulation problems. It happens all the time.
"No reason to think that the remaining provisionals will break 2-1 in her favor."
You're right, there's no reason to think that. Nor is there any reason to think they won't. There is simply no reason to prejudge the matter at all, unless you're a Schmidt partisan before you are an honest believer in our form of government.
"If you cry wolf now, no one will listen when there is fraud."
Again you far overstate your case. Who is crying wolf ? Everybody is waiting for the complete results, except those that have an agenda to try and manipulate the situation.
I want every vote to count.
In fact I want you to be able to count the votes.
Wulsin is down 2800 votes. There are not enough votes remaining to change the outcome, unless you assume provisional ballots swing 2-1 against Schmidt. There is no reason to beleive they will.
The problem is not that anyone is trying to stop the count or that the votes won't in fact be counted. They will.
The problem is that it adds up to a win for Schmidt and you can't handle that reality.
Why can't you all just be happy we won at the national level?
Howard Lipschitz wrote: "The problem is that it adds up to a win for Schmidt and you can't handle that reality."
Again, the votes are still being counted, so what it adds up to remains to be seen. You know this. Why are you trying to say that one possible outcome is reality, when it is not, at this time ? And, why are you trying to characterize me as "unable to handle" or impatient, when you're the one trying to prejudge ? What do you gain by doing that ? I don't get it. The networks describe this race as too close to call, the election returns are still pending, and Howard says you're wrong to not accept his opinion as a future fact. You're not going to convince me of anything without the benefit of some real world information that is uniquely and verifiably available only to you. I assure you that IF Schmidt wins fair and square, I can and will accept it. (What alternative would there be ?!)
"Why can't you all just be happy we won at the national level?"
I am pleased by that and cautiously optimistic for the future. But, that doesn't mean I would let down my guard for a minute regarding other matters. That would be like letting myself get nickel-and-dimed because I just got paid; I wasn't born yesterday. Those that have a lot, usually got that way because they paid attention to details and always knew where the bottom line was.
Andy,
I apologize for not responding sooner. Didn't get home from the hospital until after midnight last night. You probably don't remember this from my last campaign but when it comes to getting something done, especially when it relates to heathcare, I'm an "all day every day" kind of person.
Anyhow, I believe that every legitimate vote should be counted. The fact that such a high percentage of provisional ballots was cast in this race is indicative that there are problems with our election system. Now Jennifer Brunner, our new Secretary of State, has something to do... The fact that there are so many more Republicans than Democrats in our District will most likely lead to Jean Schmidt's eventual victory in this race. She has been through this all before... However, throughout American history, people have lost their lives on the battlefield so that you and I, and Vic Wulsin, and even Jean Schmidt could have the right to vote. It is government's responsibility to verify that the votes in the Ohio 2nd are accurate and, if they are from eligible voters, that those votes are counted...
As for the other part of my original message... Whether we have Democrats or Republicans in the leadership of the US Congress, we still have a long list of issues that require resolution.
Some of them require immediate action:
Medicare is running out of money. This affects every family in the United States of America. If the government doesn't figure this one out right now... We will ALL pay the bill...
America doesn't have enough nurses or primary care physicians. How long did you have to wait the last time you needed to get in to see your doctor?
The budget deficit and trade deficit are hurting our economy. This is so obvious... I have yet to see any movement towards a solution.
The war...
This list could go on and on...
I have to wonder if more than 100,000 people who voted for our representative in the 2006 election really believe that she is the answer to our problems. Or are they just afraid of the Democratic alternative.
I know one thing for sure... If we don't start seeing a government that learns how to work together to solve people's problems, they are never going to get anything done in Washington.
Instead of attacking each other... Instead of attacking our representative, we should be asking her how she plans to solve these problems...
That's Jean Schmidt's job.
Jim Parker, Former Democratic Candidate for US Congress
Southern Ohio - 2005 & 2006...
Adams, Brown, Clermont, Hamilton, Pike, Scioto and Warren Counties
Jim and Andy: get a room.
Anonymous: the votes are in. 99.8% counted. Not "pending". The remaining 2 cents worth can't reverse the numbers already counted. We're not talking about logical possibility here, we're talking about the real numbers. Schmidt's lead is increasing.
The media are reporting the race as "too close to call" bacause Wulsin won't concede. Allen, for example, conceded on an even tighter margin. Why don't we see you crying "Wait! Don't get your hopes up. We might not have taken the Senate. It's all still up in the air!"
You tell me where the votes are going to come from. Get on the record. Where? How many from what county?
...why are you trying to characterize me as "unable to handle" or impatient...?
Characterize who? You are anonymous.
Hmmmmm. Let's see if any poster on this thread matches the wiki definition of concern troll:
...[A] fictitious online identity whose proclaimed beliefs are not those its creator really believes and is trying to push.
The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view (for example, Democrats...), and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals but with some "concerns".
For example, in 2006 a top staffer for Congressman Charlie Bass (R-NH) was caught posing as a "concerned" supporter of Bass's opponent Democrat Paul Hodes on several liberal NH blogs, using the pseudonyms "IndieNH" or "IndyNH." "IndyNH" was "concerned" that Democrats might just be wasting their time or money on Hodes, because Bass was unbeatable.
Recognize anyone?
Hey, hey, I voted for Cranley and I would have voted for Wulsin if I were in her district. But I'm beginning to question the Democrats and their whining about supposed voting fraud and disenfrachisement. It seems to me that there has been nothing similar coming from the other party, particularly some of the close senate races. Show a little calss and take what comes -- I didn't see andy evidence of fraud in any elections in the past two elections unless you consider the Supreme Court ruling on W.
Hey Jim Parker,
There were wmd's. enough said on that subject.
Gas Prices: let me give you a little phrase to remember "supply and demand" I bet you drive an SUV, truck, or any other vehicle that sucks gas and not very economical. And by the way, Bush isn't the reason gas is up, it was on the rise long before he was in office. So, keep your liar, cheat, red nosed idiot Billy out of this.
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