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Tuesday, November 21, 2006

AP: Schmidt Wins

There may be about 6,600 provisional ballots still out there, but a 3,220-vote lead for Jean Schmidt as of 4 p.m. Tuesday was enough to convince the Associated Press to call the race.

But not enough, apparently, for Democrat Victoria Wulsin, who still refuses to concede.

Contacted by the Enquirer a second time Tuesday afternoon, moments after AP called the race for Schmidt, Wulsin said she wanted to wait to see what happens in Hamilton County, where elections officials are still in the process of counting about 4,000 2nd District provisional ballots.

But let's do the math: Wulsin would have to take about 72 percent of the outstanding votes in Hamilton, Clermont and Scioto counties to overtake Schmidt and about 67.5 percent to force an automatic recount.

Not going to happen.

As your grandma will say when she pulls the Thanksgiving turkey out of the oven, stick a fork in it; it's done.


58 Comments:

at 5:14 PM, November 21, 2006 Blogger Brah Coon said...

Hoorah! May God bless America and may we now let the healing begin. Let us come together as a Christian 2nd district.

 
at 5:28 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok. It's looks like Mean Jean Schmidt won. GASP!

So the majority of the votes go to a lying, plagiarizing, right-wing christian fundamentalist wackjob. How long before she makes a fool of herself and the people of Ohio who voted for her. I'll be very generous and give her six weeks.

Just goes to show you that the people in the 2nd District are even dumber than we first thought.

 
at 5:28 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Alter or Abolish:

You are not in a Christian nation nor a Christian district. We still have (thankfully) separation of church and state and our nation (and thus districts within) welcome people of all faiths.

 
at 5:33 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last weekend I was driving down I-275 and came upon a little red mustang convertible with an Ohio license plate that read 'OHIO REP'. Sure enough, it was Jean Schmidt. I then proceeded to slow down and pull in the lane in front of her in order to express my political views with my "Impeach Cheney First" bumper sticker.

Probably didn't even phase her.

 
at 5:37 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stick a fork in it; it's done?"

How cliche.

 
at 5:39 PM, November 21, 2006 Blogger Brian Griffin said...

"Not going to happen."

Wow, that's sure some commentary. I guess Blogging at the Enquirer does let the reporters blow of some steam. I wonder if someone's sick of covering this race?

 
at 5:39 PM, November 21, 2006 Blogger John in Cincinnati said...

Does an NFL team leave the field at the two-minute warning?

Of course not. Democracy demands that every legitimate vote be counted.

 
at 5:52 PM, November 21, 2006 Blogger Brah Coon said...

Anonymous said...
To Alter or Abolish:You are not in a Christian nation nor a Christian district. We still have (thankfully) separation of church and state and our nation (and thus districts within) welcome people of all faiths.

Oh yeah? Well Pal, -- Jesus had long ago prepared a dark, pitiless corner of Hell for far left America haters like you! I suppose you and your terrorist loving fellow travelers support habeas corpus too, huh? Sheesh!

;) I'm kidding

 
at 5:54 PM, November 21, 2006 Blogger John in Cincinnati said...

Anon @ 5:28 typed "looks like Mean Jean Schmidt won."

If Election Day percentages hold Schmidt will have squeaked by with a margin less than one percent, in a gerrymadered district Rob Portman won by landslides.

That should send Schmidt a strong message she's clearly not adequately representing the wishes of many in the 2nd CD, including a lot of Republicans.

 
at 6:30 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, the ap called it for us. thank god (the christian one of course) we've got a far right news service looking out for us.

well it looks like homer simpson will have a new place to work if mean jean really has won.

 
at 7:35 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are more fruitloops per square inch in the forgoing comments than you might find at a Now convention or an ACLU luncheon.
The AP declaration doesn't mean much, but barring something most or all of you weirdos don't believe in, a miracle, Congresswoman Jean Schmidt has won her fourth election in the past 18 months and is headed back to DC to begin her first full term as the Representative of the Second Ohio Congressional District. And when she runs again in 2008, I expect all you sarcastic, oh-so-cynical and worldly-wise jerks to flock yourselves again onto the Enquirer blog. And I'll be here, too, to point out to any and all readers your lala-land, parallel universe, whacked-out thinking. Meanwhile, have a good day.

 
at 7:46 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go, Jean!
I, for one, am happy with this result... Wulsin's inability to concede is just a hint of what would lie ahead--and it's not pretty...

 
at 8:01 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

and yet wulsin still refuses to concede.

i know she's not a fan of keeping her dignity, but come on

 
at 8:06 PM, November 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard,

I would never publicly disagree with you because I happen to like you as a person. But when you said, "It's done"... I only have one thing to say...

"Well, not really,

IT'S ONLY JUST BEGUN..."

Remember what I said about 15,000? When something is truly right for people, I'm going to fight for them. And I really don't care if they are Democrats or Republicans... What I care about is their children and their families. It's going to be a long few years...

2010 ???

 
at 11:21 PM, November 21, 2006 Blogger Nasty, Brutish & Short said...

Oh I like it when Howard lets his hair down. And he's right, the turkey timer's popped on this election.

There is one unanswered question that I have, though. If Wulsin conceded, would the boards of election still be obligated to count the provisional ballots? I would think that their legal obligations would not be tied to what the candidates say, since their duty should be to the public.

 
at 2:38 AM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard and the Enquirer don't care if every vote is counted. They don't care who's on the ballot, they will tell you what to think, who the candidates are and spin their corporate propaganda until the bottom line retires them early.

The Enquirer will be out of bussiness in five years.

 
at 4:38 AM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

My condolences to the Democrats in OH-2; the rest of you nutbags get what you deserve for voting in this heinous, anorexic witch for a 2nd term. So how would you like your toxic waste? Sunny side up?

I am SO glad I got the hell out of MASON, OHIO and now live in a place where sanity rules.

 
at 11:37 AM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Enquirer will be out of bussiness in five years.

Highly unlikely.

 
at 12:23 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, there is a question out there and I am just going to ask it--

Isn't "every vote counted" anyway?

With the exception of a recount paid for by the losing candidate, a concession or lack of one, by any candidate, has no impact. The provisional and absentee ballots would have been verified and counted anyway prior to the election being "certified"--I AM ASSUMING THAT IS CORRECT. BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

A concession is merely a political nicety without any official impact on the outcome of the election. AGAIN, I AM ASSUMING HERE.

Some one please straighten me out.

 
at 12:53 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the blogger early this am:

Please tell me where "sanity rules" I sure haven't found yet

(But Big Bob McEwen has the right idea...Northern Virginia is a much better place to live than SW Ohio...not quite "sanity" though...they will still throw you in jail and strip-search you for a minor infraction like trying to eat a sandwich on the Subway)

DC/NVA ...much better than Cinci..

But please tell me, Mr/Ms Ex-MASON Ohio......exactly where does "Sanity rule?"

 
at 1:37 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hope someone is auditing. Look what was tucked within an article in the Columbus Dispatch on another competitive race between Pryce/Kilroy (pretty convenient for the Republicans that Damschroeder found those machine errors-isn't it?:

"Damschroder said one post-election discovery will add to Monday's official tally.

Votes from about 30 electronic machines in 12 county precincts weren't counted on election-night, he said, because poll workers didn't shut them down properly.

That would add another 1,800 or more votes countywide — and an unknown smaller number in the Pryce-Kilroy race — if those machines matched the average number of votes cast per machine across Franklin County."

-snip

http://www.columbusdispatch.com/news-story.php?story=228255

 
at 1:44 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats funny, i'm glad i got out of mason too. trouble is oh-1 still has a despicable right wing whack job that keeps getting elected. don't know how he gets anything done for his consituients since he's so busy mowing his own grass and fixing a car that should have been sent to cuba years ago.

at least oh-1 doesn't have religous nuts on the school board.

 
at 5:25 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cincy911truth, NOW advocates abortion on demand as a "right," and the ACLU is demanding the elimination of God from any and all public places and the implementation of constitutional legal protections for the thugs and murderers of Islamic Jihadism. Naturally, you side with them--probably because you perceive a diabolical conspiracy somewhere to hurt somebody's feelings. Are you into UFOlogy, too?

 
at 5:57 PM, November 22, 2006 Blogger John in Cincinnati said...

Counting all the votes, re question above:

Yes, all the votes are supposed to be counted and a candiates' concession has nothing legally to do with whether an election is over or not.

However, instances abound where boxes of ballots were found at some BOE uncounted, and once a concession is issued the press and most citizens lose all interest. We wouldn't have likely found out about the suddenly found 1800 ballots in Franklin County, or the 11 – 27% of provisionals thrown out in SW Ohio.

Despite Bronson's drunk or dead Democrats "theory" most provisional voters are legitimately registered. What happened to America that voting rights are being denied?

As Moritz law school professor Ned Foley puts it:

This basic question deserves to be answered with respect to each and every rejected provisional ballot, simply because of the disenfranchisement (rightful or wrongful) that has occurred, even if these ballots make no difference to the outcome [emphasis added] . . . . Full text

Democracy demands every vote be counted. Thanks to Vic Wulsin for sticking up for voters.

 
at 6:20 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all you Democrats, "Secular Progressives," libs, socialists, feminists, homosexual activists, abortion clinic owners, environmental whack-jobs, global warming nutcases, anti-war cut and run redeloyers and Frenchmen:

AGENDA FOR THE DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION 2008
>
> 7:00 PM. Opening flag burning.
> 7:15 PM. Pledge of allegiance to the UN.
> 7:30 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
> 7:30-8:00 PM. Nonreligious prayer and worship--Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.
> 8:00 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
> 8:05 PM. Ceremonial tree hugging.
> 8:15-8:30 PM. Homosexual Wedding
--Barney Frank presiding.
> 8:30 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
> 8:35 PM. Free Saddam Rally-- Cindy Sheehan and Susan Sarandon.
> 9:00 PM. Keynote speech: The Proper Etiquette for Surrender
--French President Jacques Chirac
> 9:15 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
> 9:20 PM. Collection to benefit Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant fund
> 9:30 PM. Unveiling of plan to free freedom fighters from Guantanamo Bay--Sean Penn
> 9:40 PM. Why I Hate The Military, A short talk by William Jefferson Clinton
> 9:45 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
> 9:50 PM. Dan Rather presented Truth in Broadcasting Award, presented by Michael Moore
> 9:55 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
> 10:00 PM. How George bush and Donald Rumsfeld brought down the World Trade Center Towers, a multi-media presentation by Howard Dean, assisted by "Cincy911truth."
> 10:30 PM. Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
> 11:00 PM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
> 11:05 PM. Al Gore reinvents the
Internet
> 11:15 PM. Our Troops are War Criminals, a short discourse complete with joke by John Kerry
> 11:30 PM. Coronation of Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton
> 12:00 AM. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
> 12:05 AM. Bill asks Ted to drive Hillary home.

 
at 6:25 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's funny the City of Mason is the example considering a good portion of the city is in the 3rd District which elected Mike Turner to another term. Mason is an outlier, used for how many votes it produces for Republicans. Schmidt's biggest worries are the City of Cincinnati, and her homeland of Clermont County. Turner's biggest worry is the City of Dayton and it's Eastern burbs.

I also don't know how a city that is so "insane" can be as successful as it is. You don't hear people from Norwood, or Reading griping about their representation when most would consider those areas far below par with Mason.

 
at 7:36 PM, November 22, 2006 Blogger thirstycoon said...

TNP, you mock the Dems in Congress. Just make sure your girl Jean accomplishes something positive. Try to keep her from embarrassing herself and OH. I am willing to give her respect when she deserves it, but the way she ran her campaign was certainly less than admirable. It takes more than a auto vanity plate to impress most of us.

 
at 8:50 PM, November 22, 2006 Blogger Brah Coon said...

TNP said: WAY too much to cut and paste. Son, you are all post 9/11 zombie. We are over it now and beginning to think for ourselves -- it goes waay beyond GOP -vs- DEM ... it's all about thinking for one's self. Get it? It's people, be they " far left" or "far right" looking around and seeing that somebody -- took 'em for fools! We want our Constitution back! Osama cannot destroy America with his handfull of crackpots - WE can, if we allow the Bill Of Rights to be null & void in the name of " security"

 
at 10:46 PM, November 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

TNP,

You should write for FOX's new right-leaning version of the Daily Show because you are a comic genius. America must never forget that Ted Kennedy is a drunk and Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet. My only suggestion to the itinerary would be to make fun of William Jennings Bryant's support for the silver standard - how wrong he was!!!

Sincerely,
Ann Coulter's Adam's Apple

 
at 9:26 AM, November 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

at 6:20 PM, November 22, 2006 TNP said... (insert wRong wingnut propaganda here....)

Typical wRong wingnut whacko playing the sock-puppit for the "culture of corruption" !

PATHETIC !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008 !

 
at 9:58 AM, November 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heimlich 2008 anybody?

 
at 10:26 AM, November 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose Pie Head Hackett will want to run for office again in the future.
He certainly did a poor job supporting Wulsin when she really needed his support near election day.

 
at 7:02 PM, November 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crk, The Dems make mocking them easy. They are such hypocrites. Their ideas don't work. They won this election in most parts of the country without any ideas, let alone ideas that work. All they know how to do is hate Bush and anyone who works with or supports him. Pelosi has already screwed up, and like the man said, you ain't seen nothin' yet. I have a notion that in two years the GOP will reclaim both houses of Congress. I'm gonna do my best to do my part in making that happen.

Alter etc., you must have been in the cooking wine when you wrote your blurb. Your writing is borderline gibberish. I'm confident you have something to say, but, old son, you're talking with a mouth full of mush. And keep this in mind: if we're dead, our constitutional rights don't mean much. Apparently I was right when I suggested that you and those who think as you do don't realize how much danger our nation and our friends are facing at the hands of the Islamic Jihadists and their allies around the world. I shudder when I flirt with the conclusion that we must experience another 9/11-type disaster before folks like you wake up to the reality of the threat we face, and WILL CONTINUE to face for at least another 10-12 years or more. I hate it, but unlike you, I know that we're at war, and peace only comes thru victory. And, baby-cakes, even though victory is always costly in blood and treasure, it's worth it. The alternative is unthinkable, unless, of course, you live and think in a parallel universe where common sense and logic aren't important.

Anonymous at 10:46 pm, 11/22, as I told CRK above, the Dems make it so easy to ridicule them. I could have made that lampoon (most of which I borrowed from a friend) ten times longer by including a whole lot more really rich material. But this is a blog, and it wouldn't have been appropriate in terms of length. I don't know what you were driving at with your comment about William Jennings Bryant, but if memory serves me correctly, he was a proponent of the GOLD standard.
But whatever; I was having a little fun at the expense of the pretentious, arrogant, "we know what's best for everybody, especially us" Democrats, and frankly, I was hoping it would make more of you dingdongs angry. Qu'elle deception! So it goes.

 
at 8:35 PM, November 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

TNP, i've personally come to the conclusion that another terrorist attack on this country is the only way the left is going to wake up. if it takes the death of thousands, if not tens of thousands of americans to get the left to wake up and really realize what kind of an enemy we're facing, so be it. i hate saying that, but in the long run, it will be for the better. do we want thousands to die now, or millions to die later? i look at republicans losing both houses as a blessing in disguise. this country isn't ready to fight the war on terror because you've got 51%+ of this country refusing to do so. let them pull us out of iraq. let them appease iran and north korea. by all means, you can control all of our foreign diplomacy if you'd like because i know in the long run, its going to benefit americans.

you know, i never thought id see the day where i'd say something like that, but i look around and the answer is obvious. the left in this country does not take the threats we face seriously. i truly question whether they want america to be the america it is today. i hesitate to say that democrats hate this country, but im beginning to think its true. look at the rest of the world. islam is slowly taking over. france, spain, britain...sadly, we're next. the quicker we are attacked, the quicker the left will wake up. it's a shame that innocent civilians have to be casualties of a war which we could win, but choose to not fight. i just hope the next attack isnt the one to truly bring this country to our knees.

 
at 11:06 PM, November 23, 2006 Blogger Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said...

Heimlich in 08? That is hilarious.

 
at 9:35 AM, November 24, 2006 Blogger Brah Coon said...

TNP, WRONG again! It wasn't " cooking wine" it was Jim Beam.

In a world of good republicans, bad democrats, evil jihadists and you crusaders of the apocalypse; I'm gonna just ride it out for " 10-12 years" with Jim Beam, dude.

 
at 10:50 AM, November 24, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wulsin needs to give it up, well maybe not.
Her actions since 11/8 have been pathetic, so I guess I understand why she hagning on:
this is her ONLY chance!
The CE/CP need to report on her behavior.
I'm not a Schmidt fan, but the media would have ripped on her if the outcome was reversed.

 
at 10:56 AM, November 24, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alter etc., I was only wrong in the kind of poison you were imbibing. Stay pickled, and let us sober folks fight the war to protect your sorry butt. This is still a free country, and you can do or say pretty much whatever you want to.

Anonymous at 8:35 pm, 11/23, you and I are on the same page. Hang in there, and thanks for stepping up to the blog plate. Your comment was useful and pertinent, unlike so many others I read on this blog. And if you're a praying person, please pray that the Lord God will be merciful to our nation and guide our leaders, both civilian and military. We are in danger, and we must be victorious in this ugly war we've been forced into.

 
at 12:31 PM, November 24, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its pretty obvious that the crack Enquirer reporting staff has an agenda in this race. If the tables had been turned they would have been all over Schmidt. Its a shame this town doesn't have a decent newspaper, one that reports the news. But then again that requires real reporters.

 
at 5:01 PM, November 24, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Local Republicans have a hollow victory in Schmidt's apparent eked-out win. They must claim her as their party's representative, serving as the least-respected of a now-minority party. Her identity is as forever tarnished as Michael Richards or soon-to be former-Sen. Macaca, in fact, her comments on the floor of Congress, for which she was compelled to issue an apology, added to the overall appearance of incompetence of her party. Enjoy, Schmidt voters.

 
at 11:45 PM, November 24, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

if paul hackett wasn't so goddamn arrogant...

 
at 12:37 AM, November 25, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 5:01 pm, 11/24, Congresswoman Jean Schmidt will prove to be an excellent representative in her first full term unburdened by the necessity of campaigning every 3-5 months, as she has four times in the past 18 months. As a freshman rep, she has learned a lot very quickly about what she can and can't say publicly. If she runs into that backbench idiot Murtha on the floor of the House, I personally hope she tells the numbskull to take a long walk off a short pier--but quietly, Jean, quietly.

 
at 4:19 PM, November 25, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

at 7:02 PM, November 23, 2006 TNP said...
Crk, The Dems make mocking them easy. They are such hypocrites. Their ideas don't work. They won this election in most parts of the country without any ideas, let alone ideas that work.


GOP ideas...

ban flag burning ( I am still waiting to witness an actual flag burning)

Protect the right of heteros such as Britney to marry for 52 hours

Keep brain dead patients on Medicaid alive to the tune of $100,000 taxpayer funds per year for decades if the parents can't let go

Don't slaughter horses for horse meat

Don't investigate anything the executive branch does no matter how incompetently if said executive happens to be of the same party

Cut taxes and rachet up spending to unprecedented levels

Don't safeguard the ports, chemical plants, food supply etc. Offense is so much more fun than defense.

Appoint political operatives rather than experienced competent individuals to various government departments

Launch an ill conceived, poorly executed war of choice with a country who did not attack the United States, and had nothing to do with 9-11 simply because the PNACers and the most ill prepared president in history thought it would be peachy.

Lose Bin Laden at Tora Bora since Afghan Warlords are so trustworthy...

 
at 1:02 PM, November 26, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ONLY Way that the Democrats can DEFEAT JEAN SCHMIDT...

 
at 4:18 PM, November 26, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

bilchuk, its that same naivety that terrorists are going to capitalize on.

democrats believe the war on terror is nothing but a political talking point for themselves - nothing more, nothing less.

as far as im concerned, another terrorist attack cant happen soon enough so we can wake up and get our heads back into the game. i just hope you aren't one of the thousands, if not tens of thousands of victims due to the democrats' political malfeasance so you can readjust your thinking.

 
at 4:33 PM, November 26, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

A-Nony-Moose at 4:19 pm, 11/25, this is gonna be fun.

You left the word "breathlessly" out of your statement about waiting.

Abuse of traditional marriage is no reason to throw open the doors to any and all distortions of marriage. When you permit males to "marry" males and females to "marry" females, where do you draw the new line? What's to prevent someone from demanding the "right" to "marry" his sister or his donkey or her chimp or "marriages" of three or more individuals or group marriages? Where do you draw the line, Democrat?

The decision to pull the plug on literally "braindead" patients belongs to the family or to the individual legally responsible. Where did you get the notion that your pitch was a Republican idea?

PETA is a liberal special interest group welcomed by the Dems. How do you figure defending horses from being eaten is a Republican idea? Have you contacted the mothership for further info?

Illegal activities, such as the Watergate break-ins or oral sex between a president and a 21-year-old intern in the Oval Office cloakroom, must be investigated and prosecuted if necessary. But partisan "investigations" based on differing party policy positions are utterly and totally uncalled-for and counter-productive to the orderly transition of power from one party to the other. Watch Waxman and others do major damage to the ability of future administrations to take decisive action in defending our nation. You Dems are so desperate for power that NOTHING is ruled out if it will help you gain and retain power, no matter the long-term damage to the nation.

Pay attention, Democrat. Federal revenues are breaking records in an UPWARD direction while the deficits are sliding beyond projections in a DOWNWARD direction. Why? Because of the tax cuts--and this despite being involved all the way up to our eyeballs in a global war. Like I said, pay attention to the facts.

We have NOT been hit in the homeland since the ugly surprise of 9/11. Have you noticed? And has that happy absence of catastrophe occurred by accident or because of the wonderful, cheerful cooperation of the disloyal opposition in the Congress? No! It has happened because the Republican Administration and Congress has made it happen. Again, you're not paying attention to the facts, Democrat. BTW, taking the war to the enemy on his homeland is not easy and sure as hell isn't "fun."
But it beats the blazes out of letting him bring his hatred and destruction to us again. Capeesh?

Bolton, Alito, Roberts and Rice are appointees who carry the coal and do their assigned tasks so well because they are superbly qualified for the positions they hold. The guy who ran FEMA during the Katrina disaster wasn't well-qualified, I'll grant you. But your sweeping generalization stinks.

The invasion of Iraq and the destruction of the Saddam regime was the right thing to do. The President would have be derelict in his duty if he had NOT invaded.
The aftermath has been difficult and still hangs in the balance. But no war we've ever been drawn into has been a walk in the park. It makes supreme sense to me to be killing the thugs and murderers of Islamic Jihadism in Iraq rather than in Central Park or downtown Los Angeles.

OBL is virtually irrelevant today, because he's hiding in a cave in western Pakistan or eastern Afghanistan or both. Killing him would have no more impact on global terrorism that killing al Zarqawi had on events in Iraq. Like you, I'd rather see him dead, preferably by hanging the way Saddam is slated to die. But we will win this ugly, horrible war by killing, disabling or imprisoning the jihadists, not simply by doing away with OBL.

Democrat, you and your fellow Jackass Party compadres are good at slinging smear, mud, half-truths and hatred in the direction of the GOP. But like I said in a post up above somewhere, you have no ideas or at least no ideas that work. For example, watch what happens to the glowing economy when Rangel starts eliminating the tax cuts, and keep an eye on the sky when the NSA overseas electronic communication snooping on suspected terrorists is terminated. The killers are ecstatic that the Dems are now in control of both houses of Congress.
Why? Pay attention, and you'll see in short order. And may God have mercy on our nation.

 
at 12:36 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrat, you and your fellow .... compadres are good at slinging smear, mud, half-truths and hatred in the direction of the GOP

TNP, aka colon rink a-dink-a-do, is a typical wRong wingnut whacko slinging the elephant dung propaganda of the "culture of corruption'" !

Seems TNP is a little sensitive when the truth hits home !

Face it TNP, the public is not with you !

The Public once was blind, but, now they see !

The GOP - GRUBBING OLD PEDOPHILES are:

PATHETIC !

TNP, stop da da da da whine-ing !

The Public has:

HAD ENOUGH !

and

VOTING DEMOCRAT 2008 !

lol, lol, lol, lol

 
at 3:21 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow bold democrat guy that no one ever listens to. that was deep.

are you stupid, or just borderline retarded?

 
at 4:15 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

since you are moderating this thread, why don't you accept that it has lost its original purpose and shut it down. maybe you could set up two new threads. one for left-tards and one for right-tards.

 
at 4:46 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

theres no reason to shut this thread down. icky vicky hasnt conceded yet, so this is the most recent post regarding the race in 02.

 
at 8:10 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Dippy Dem at 12:36 pm, 11/27, how long has it been since you were discharged from the funny farm? Your goofy exclamations belong in the back of a high school annual. It's no wonder you're a Democrat. I want to encourage you to continue posting and identifying yourself as a Democrat. All by your lonesome you graphically demonstrate why folks should never vote Democrat. Who would want to be identified with the political party of someone who spouts and shouts drivel without end? BTW, thanks for the compliment, but my name is not Colin.

 
at 9:13 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

THe 109th Congress was a GOP controlled congress. Therefore banning horsemeat, flag burning and keeping a brain dead woman on Medicaid alive (Schiavo) was a GOP idea. Dr. Bill Frist diagnosed her from a video. Why listen to several neurologists when you have Dr. Bill.

Congressional oversight? That just happens to be congress' job. Look it up. I do care a lot more about $9 billion missing in Iraq, Halliburton ripping off tax payers, an Arabian Horse Assn. lawyer being apponted to FEMA than a blow job that was no one's business other than Bill, Monica and Hillary's.

We fight them over there so they don't hop on planes to fight us here. Surely you jest. There were no jihadist's in Saddam's secular Iraq where the Sunni minority had favored status over the majority Shiites. Iraq was not a thocratic nation, nor was it a failed state. If we really meant to do something about jihadist recruiting we would have gone after Saudi Arabia, the country that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from. We would go after Saudi Arabia's funding of madrasas..

After 9-11 Madrasas drew added attention when it became known that several Taliban leaders andAl Qaeda members had developed radical political views at madrasas in Pakistan, someof which allegedly were built and partially financed through Saudi Arabian sources.

OBL doesn't matter.

Nice try.

Keep shilling. The American people see through all the spin.

The 109th Congress has no one to blame but their GOP selves.


The Worst Congress Ever November 01, 2006 5:08 AM

How our national legislature has become a stable of thieves and perverts -- in five easy steps . By Matt Taibbi

10/31/06 "Rolling Stone" -- -- There is very little that sums up the record of the U.S. Congress in the Bush years better than a half-mad boy-addict put in charge of a federal commission on child exploitation. After all, if a hairy-necked, raincoat-clad freak like Rep. Mark Foley can get himself named co-chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, one can only wonder: What the hell else is going on in the corridors of Capitol Hill these days?

These past six years were more than just the most shameful, corrupt and incompetent period in the history of the American legislative branch. These were the years when the U.S. parliament became a historical punch line, a political obscenity on par with the court of Nero or Caligula -- a stable of thieves and perverts who committed crimes rolling out of bed in the morning and did their very best to turn the mighty American empire into a debt-laden, despotic backwater, a Burkina Faso with cable.

To be sure, Congress has always been a kind of muddy ideological cemetery, a place where good ideas go to die in a maelstrom of bureaucratic hedging and rank favor-trading. Its whole history is one long love letter to sleaze, idiocy and pigheaded, glacial conservatism. That Congress exists mainly to misspend our money and snore its way through even the direst political crises is something we Americans understand instinctively. "There is no native criminal class except Congress," Mark Twain said -- a joke that still provokes a laugh of recognition a hundred years later.

But the 109th Congress is no mild departure from the norm, no slight deviation in an already-underwhelming history. No, this is nothing less than a historic shift in how our democracy is run. The Republicans who control this Congress are revolutionaries, and they have brought their revolutionary vision for the House and Senate quite unpleasantly to fruition. In the past six years they have castrated the political minority, abdicated their oversight responsibilities mandated by the Constitution, enacted a conscious policy of massive borrowing and unrestrained spending, and installed a host of semipermanent mechanisms for transferring legislative power to commercial interests. They aimed far lower than any other Congress has ever aimed, and they nailed their target.

"The 109th Congress is so bad that it makes you wonder if democracy is a failed experiment," says Jonathan Turley, a noted constitutional scholar and the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington Law School. "I think that if the Framers went to Capitol Hill today, it would shake their confidence in the system they created. Congress has become an exercise of raw power with no principles -- and in that environment corruption has flourished. The Republicans in Congress decided from the outset that their future would be inextricably tied to George Bush and his policies. It has become this sad session of members sitting down and drinking Kool-Aid delivered by Karl Rove. Congress became a mere extension of the White House."

The end result is a Congress that has hijacked the national treasury, frantically ceded power to the executive, and sold off the federal government in a private auction. It all happened before our very eyes. In case you missed it, here's how they did it -- in five easy steps:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=9734&pst=603487

The greed and laziness of the 109th Congress has reached such epic proportions that it has finally started to piss off the public. In an April poll by CBS News, fully two-thirds of those surveyed said that Congress has achieved "less than it usually does during a typical two-year period." A recent Pew poll found that the chief concerns that occupy Congress -- gay marriage and the inheritance tax -- are near the bottom of the public's list of worries. Those at the top -- education, health care, Iraq and Social Security -- were mostly blown off by Congress. Even a Fox News poll found that fifty-three percent of voters say Congress isn't "working on issues important to most Americans."

One could go on and on about the scandals and failures of the past six years; to document them all would take . . . well, it would take more than ninety-three %#&!*% days, that's for sure. But you can boil the whole sordid mess down to a few basic concepts. Sloth. Greed. Abuse of power. Hatred of democracy. Government as a cheap backroom deal, finished in time for thirty-six holes of the world's best golf. And brains too stupid to be ashamed of any of it. If we have learned nothing else in the Bush years, it's that this Congress cannot be reformed. The only way to change it is to get rid of it.

Fortunately, we still get that chance once in a while.


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/worst_congress_ever

And we saw what happened on Nov. 7.

 
at 9:31 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

TNP for President!

 
at 10:29 PM, November 27, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 9:13 pm, 11/27, you're wasting my valuable time with your Democrat talking points.
Like so many Dems I encounter, you're beyond hope, steeped in Rolling Stone, CNN, "it was only sex" and the GOP's so-called "culture of corruption" crapspin. Orwell would have used you as a sterling example of Newspeak had he had the opportunity. Arguing with you is as useful as shouting down a rain barrel. The only thing I can do is make as certain as I can that you and your ideological buddies lose next election. You're a danger to yourselves and the nation, and you don't even know it.

Anonymous at 9:31 pm, 11/27, thanks.

 
at 1:52 AM, November 28, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

you get your political news coverage from rolling stone.

enough said.

 
at 6:50 PM, November 28, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately for you TNP other than the far right base, the majority of Americans agreed with me, not you on Nov. 7. The GOP lost the fiscal conservatives, the moderates and just about anyone who can think for themselves.

Horsemeat, flag burning, Terri Schiavo, no bid contracts for Halliburton, Rove insisting Foley run again, in order to hold a majority regardless of what Reynolds, Hastert and Boehner knew about his boy lust...

But most of all...

IRAQ WAR: $11.9 million an hour

US Debt with China: Priceless


You may now return to reading the Reverand Moon owned Washington Times.

 
at 7:01 PM, November 28, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The GOP has been wasting tax payer money and partisan GOP shills don't even care.

Contractors Face More Scrutiny, Pinched Purses
Democrats Vow to Examine Large Deals
By Griff Witte and Renae Merle
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, November 28, 2006; Page D01

After riding high for five years, government contractors are bracing themselves for increased oversight, tighter budgets and stepped-up regulations as Democrats take over on Capitol Hill and vow to keep a closer eye on how companies spend taxpayer dollars.

Every company that does business with the government could feel the impact, but contractors that benefited most from work in Iraq and Afghanistan, from homeland security initiatives or from Hurricane Katrina are especially likely to be under the microscope. Big-ticket weapons programs are also expected to garner special attention, and it may become more difficult to get a no-bid contract, according to industry observers.

"The pendulum has clearly swung back in a hard way," said David Nadler, an attorney for government contractors with the Dickstein Shapiro law firm. "Everything contractors do is going to be subject to scrutiny. They need to understand that they're in a different environment."


Thanks god the fiscal liberals are now in charge.

 
at 7:49 PM, November 28, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since TNP believes the 109th Congress did a good job could he please enlighten us as to what he feels they accomplshed and why it was important to the American people...

I would also like to know about the $9 million missing in Iraq. Can we please have it back, that is our hard earned tax dollars.

 
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