Hamilton Board of Elections director asked to save '04 ballots
Timothy M. Burke, a Democrat and chairman of the Hamilton County Board of Elections, sent John Williams, a Republican and the board's director, a note Saturday requesting that ballots from the 2004 election not be discarded.
Under federal law, they can be destroyed after 22 months, or this weekend.
Burke wrote: "I received a phone call yesterday evening from Commissioner Todd Portune. He has requested that we do not destroy the 2004 ballots while the new lawsuit is pending. That is a reasonable request. Can you confirm what the status of those ballots is and what if any plans currently exist for their future preservation."
Williams told the Enquirer on Thursday that the board planned to retain all used ballots, although it inadvertently discarded unused ballots last spring.
14 Comments:
What do you mean they "inadvertantly" discarded unused ballots before the 22 months was up?
Isn't that a felony Jon???
A good reporter might think there's something fishy going on.
No, the wRong wingnuts will just fire up the press !
If something is fishy then there is going to be great demand for our hometown rag to wrap it all up in !
I'm sure the fishwrap will help mask the smell !
"inadvertently discarded unused ballots last spring"
Why am I not surprised?
This is the exact same outfit who threatened me with a Felony 5 conviction when I went to question my mom's absentee ballot for irregularities. Instead, they attempted to accuse me of irregularities & vote fraud.
Heads up everyone! Especially the people out there looking after elderly family members AND have been given the power of attorney to do so.
You get their absentee ballots for them. Don't let the Board of Elections vote manipulators that they have visit the senior centers & nursing homes "help" them with their ballots.
Get wise to who's on the election & what the issues are. Your folks deserve a complete right to know before they select the dot. You are the one who can completely inform them, not the manipulators!
Don't let the Board of Elections pull your strings & threaten you! Seems to me they're guilty of a a voter fraud felony themselves. They are an extremely crooked outfit.
Voter beware! Absentee voter beware!
George Bush won. Twice. Get over it.
Al Gore won the election in 2000. If the fact that George Bush committed an illegal coup doesn't outrage you, you need to move to North Korea or Iraq and experience the dictatorship you so richly desire.
Jeff, this lawsuit is about fairness, accountability and preserving the public record for historical purposes, not who won the election.
Don't fall for Carl Weiser's spin.
You can not talk to a wRong wingnut whacko !
They believe the propaganda the fishwrap publishes !
You see, Jeff will never realize that his cokehead misleader was found, by a court of law, to have violated the constitution and bill of rights. That same constitution he swore to uphold.
HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2006 !
More on Ohio's election problems in the New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/05/opinion/05tue1.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Ken Blackwell is a disgrace and a traitor to his country.
Jeff, Bush stole the 2000 election twice. Wake up!
The London Observer on November 26, 2000 wrote:
Vice President Al Gore would've easily strolled to victory in Florida if the state hadn't kicked upt to 66,000 citizens off the voter registar five months ago as former felons. In fact, not all were ex-cons. Most were simply guilty of being African American.
(This is while the recount was still going, before Scalia stopped it.)
CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin proves it in his book "Too close to call".
The U.S. Civil; Rights Commision held hearings about the disenfranchisement of voters. Their draft report shows incredible disparities between spoiled votes in poor and rich counties, particularly in African American districts.
"Black voters were 10 times more likely than non black voters to have their ballots rejected."
The Wall Street Journal noted the discrepancies: "While the overall rejection rate was just under 3%, the rate was nearly four times as high in the precints that are predominantly black".
The Supreme Court stopped the recount because as Scalia said if the recount continues it could "threaten irreperable harm to petitioner"(George Bush). Then his son Eugene got an appiontment in the administration.
The facts are out there and Governor Bush lost. Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris weren't exactly acting in a non-partisan way and either did Ken Blackwell in 2004.
Here is the article as a link:
wRong wingnut misleaders
More for Jeff.
The U.S. Civil Rights Commision held hearings about the
disenfranchisement of voters. Their draft report, Voting Irregularities
in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election published June 8,
2001, stated:
Black voters were nearly 10 times more likely than non black voters to
have their ballots rejected. Poor counties, particularly those with
large minority populations, were more likely to posses voting systems
with higher spoilage rates than the more affluent counties with
significant white poulations. There is a high correlation between
counties and precincts with a high percentage of spoiled ballots, that
is, ballots cast but not counted.
Nine of ten counties with the highest percentage of African American
voters had spoilage rates above the Florida average.
Of the 10 counties with the highest percentage of white voters, only
two counties had spoilage rates above the Florida average.
Gadsen County, with the highest rate of spoiled ballots, also had the
highest percentage of African American voters.
Where precinct data were available, the data show that 83 of the 100
precincts with the highest numbers of disqualified ballots are black-
majority precincts.
Florida's optical-scan voting machines could be set two ways. They
could throw away ballots that weren't correctly marked or they could
return them to the voters to be corrected.
The machines in counties with large black and poor populations were set
to eat bad ballots. In whiter and wealthier counties were set to
politely return ballots that were improperly marked to be corrected.
Thank you all for giving some logical insight to people like Jeff.
Jeff like most Americans has no idea how our votes are tabulated. Notice I said tabulated and not counted. That is because proprietary software decides which candidate to assign a particular punch to. In Ohio there is a mandatory candidate ballot rotation by precinct. That means at my polling location which has 2 precincts, the number 8 hole would mean that I intended to vote for Bush. If you took my ballot and put it with the ballots from the precinct across the room and tabulated it as if it was from a voter in that precinct. My Bush vote would be interpreted as a vote for Kerry, because in this precinct the number 8 hole is assigned to Kerry, the number 10 is Bush.
Would you be surprised if I told you that the only thing that tells the card reader which precinct and what value a particular hole on a punch card ballot means is a header card that must preced a change in precinct? That's right, all a person would need to do is take some ballots from precinct A and mix them in with precinct B's ballots to cause a vote to be mistabulated.
Jeff has only talking points. I doubt that he has read the Green Party reports on the recount.
http://www.iwantmyvote.com/recount/ohio_reports/
In Clermont:
"Random" sample selection — not random... Staff admitted that small precincts were chosen because fewer problems would be encountered in smaller precincts"
"Should use random number generator or pick from 191 precincts in a hat. A Green witness challenged to allow the addition/substitution of more populous precincts — he was asked to write his request (Miami CXYZ) and then it was later denied by the Democratic Chairman, Pricilla O'Donnell"
"On some ballots, there was a sticker on the ballot, the Kerry vote was covered with a sticker — no one could explain these stickers. Board of Elections — no one would 2nd the motion to bring this to a vote. Later other witnesses noticed stickers on other ballots. May have to invoke tampering, defiling statutes."
— Green Party Observer
Clermont County Recount
Stickers on optiscan ballots?
The reporting's done, the discoveries are out. The reason it took so long is because of county boards obstructing access until this year and a continued coverup, even if it's just ignorance and incompetence. Now we need someone with courage, guts and cahunas to prosecute these crimes. If the feds won't do it and county prosecutors won't, who will?
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