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Tuesday, April 29, 2008

County to city: pay up for your criminals


UPDATE from Jane Prendergast:
Mayor Mark Mallory, in his weekly press briefing Tuesday, said he hasn't yet been convinced that the city owes this money to the county. He was unaware of any previous payment deal, he said, and hasn't "seen anything in writing" that shows the agreement.

"Certainly, if there was," he said, "we will adhere to it to the best of our ability."
Jessica Brown reports:


From now on, the city of Cincinnati must pick up the tab for anyone jailed solely for having a joint in their pocket, violating a city building code or breaking any other Cincinnati-specific law.


Hamilton County, which bears the cost of running the county’s jails, is reinstating a decades-old policy of billing Cincinnati for the $65-per-day cost of housing inmates on city charges. The policy applies only to inmates behind bars for violating a municipal law.





27 Comments:

at 12:17 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the City has money for their toy trolleys, they can afford to pay the County for housing their criminals.

 
at 1:03 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have they sent the same bills to other municipalities in the county. While I'm sure Cincinnati sends the plurality of non-county prisoners to the jail, they can't have the only ones. Can you please find out if other municipalities are getting the same treatment?

This is a smart thing to do. Just make sure it's applied evenly.

 
at 1:05 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I applaud the county, this is a city problem and should be dealt with as such... Officials need to make some serious decisions about the future of law enforcement in this city real soon!

 
at 1:58 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is hard to believe that no one in the Sheriff's Office or elsewhere in the County noticed this reduction in revenue when it occurred.

 
at 2:07 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps now the City won't be so quick to send people to jail just for J-walking!

 
at 2:19 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

By starting to enforce this decades old rule, more lawbreakers will be set free or not go to jail at all. Yes, they may be non-violent criminals but they have broken the law just the same. By doing this, the county is tying the city of Cincinnati's hands and that of their police department to enforce the law.

 
at 2:27 PM, April 29, 2008 Blogger Cheviot Sports Authority said...

Uh Oh, there goes the street car money.
ST CSA

 
at 2:28 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is crazy. The law should be repealed, and nonviolent offenders released from jail. There isn't jail overcrowding in Cincinnati, there is overcriminalization and overenforcement causing overincarceration.

 
at 2:30 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 1:03 made a great point!

 
at 2:51 PM, April 29, 2008 Blogger Quim said...

Well, this is pretty obvious.
Instead of throwing people in jail, Cincinnati can just dump criminals off in the suburbs.
Then the burbs can dump them back in Cincinnati via CityLink.
Who needs a jail ?

 
at 2:51 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree with those aboove if they can buy trolleys why can't they can pay the county for housing the criminals.

 
at 2:51 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 1:03: "Read the full story here" link indicates every municipality in Ham. Co. pays for jail space.

 
at 3:02 PM, April 29, 2008 Blogger usefullidiot said...

"...there is overcriminalization and overenforcement causing overincarceration..."

ABSULUTLY!!!

But we can't blame the cops!!

The irony is that this was the work of John Pepper's kid when he was running for mayor, now he wants to charge for his own legislation!!!!!

Lol

 
at 4:01 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no problem with this. It's time every governmental entity must weigh the cost of incarceration vs. the actual need to do so.

Hamilton County doesn't need a new jail, the county has not grown in size. It needs better management of who gets locked up and why. The people have issued their mandate buy denying Simon Leis's requests for more money and more jail space.

 
at 4:26 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The judges need to send the bad guys who want to fight all the time
to Irac.

 
at 5:42 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anon 1:03 said...

Thanks, Anon. 2:51. Carl, that may have been a point worth making in the blog post, too...don'tcha think?

 
at 7:38 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks to Pat Dewine for bringing this out. It looks like the Wedemand crowd were right all along.

 
at 9:35 PM, April 29, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoopsie! There goes the trolley car money. There's a good possibility the social services programs freeloaders will have to take a drastic cut in taxpayer funding.

Yeah, the City needs to cough up their portion of the money. Why Mayor Zero can't understand this concept is another story.

While the County is at it with delinquent money, perhaps this would be a good time for them to check on the criminals who are woefully delinquent in paying their court costs. That collective sum alone could get the county out of debt & build a resort of a jail with every comfort imaginable. Outdoor water slide, indoor pool, WiFi, all the frills!

 
at 6:49 AM, April 30, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

How will we afford to put all the politicians in jail?

Their lies and (hidden) heartlessness hurt the lives of millions of people.

If we can't afford to keep the criminals in jail, how will we ever afford to put the politicians in jail?

 
at 9:49 AM, April 30, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sending someone to jail for a joint is crazy, just give them a ticket and send them on their way.
Anyone who disagrees with that has never gotten high and believes all the anti pot propaganda.
Ever watch Reefer Madness?
Getting high is nothing like that.
Getting drunk is much more dangerous than getting high.
A lot of cities in this country have made pot the same criminal level as jay walking.
It's not that big a deal, just get over it.
Also, if they would just make it legal, they could tax it to death and have some money to fix up the country.

 
at 9:58 AM, April 30, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that anywhere near Iraq?

 
at 6:52 PM, April 30, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put puh-puh-Pat Dewine out to pasture along with his daddy!

Sorry, I forgot - puh-puh-Pat quit before he could get fired by the voters!

COAST is TOAST

 
at 8:16 PM, April 30, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The County is already getting all of the City's TIF revenues from the Banks, refuses to share any parking revenues, and still will not pay any share- let alone their fare share- of the cost of operations for SORTA, which serves the entire County. Once again, the County is looking to the City for a bailout. And once again the sole purpose is to try and squeeze more money out of the City in order to cover the County's tremendous debt.

 
at 12:21 AM, May 01, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 8:16 -

1) The TIFF district that is going to fund the Banks was created for the specific purpose of funding the Banks. The City has no business using those funds for any other purpose. Stop whining about it.

2) The vast majority of communities in the County outside of the City of Cincinnati have absolutely no interest at all in the "service" that SORTA provides. Ask the folks out in Colerain, Harrison, etc. what they think about the Metro Buses. If they could legally do it they'd ban Metro buses from their streets, so don't go whining about SORTA funding.

 
at 1:30 AM, May 01, 2008 Anonymous Prosecute Simon Leis said...

Yet another example of the incompetence of Simon Leis. It's bad enough that one employee in the office takes it upon themselves to reverse a policy, costing the county hundreds of thousands of dollars. And nobody in the Sheriff's office notices?

Who is this person's Supervisor? Who is the head financial officer in the Sheriff's Department?

What's the county's excuse for not noticing this for 7 years until DeWine's office noticed? Nobody in the County Budget office noticed a bunch of zeros where there used to be revenues?

A lot of people aren't doing their jobs here. Leis needs to held accountable. Everyone in the chain of command in the Sheriff's Office who monitors this employee should be held accountable. The County's budget office should be held accountable too.

 
at 10:54 PM, May 01, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait a minute, Si Leis an incompetent administrator?? Are we talking about the same person who had employees bringing drugs into the jail? The same sheriff who was paying $80 a night to leaseg 60empty beds in butler county, while crying a full house downtown? The same sheriff with a bag pipe brigade and inflatable doll but can't cover the budget to do his job? Somehow this paragon of administrative virtue failed to properly supervise an employee to the point that that employee eliminated $200,000 per year for the past 7 years from the jail's coffers and didn't notice? Surely you jest. Si Leis is the only man in hamilton county that knows enough and cares enough about how to enforce the law. He would never have MISTAKENLY allowed this to happen.

 
at 2:23 PM, May 02, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:54 Don't look overhead. There's a black chopper hovering over your abode. Semper Si!

 
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