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Thursday, March 20, 2008

Voinovich: We need to raise taxes


Gongwer News Service, which covers all things Columbus, filed this report:


U.S. Sen. George Voinovich said Wednesday an increase in federal taxes is necessary in order to deal with an array of serious fiscal and infrastructure challenges that face the nation.


Voinovich (R-Cleveland) delivered his assessment during an appearance before a regional planning forum in Columbus.


"We're in a global marketplace, right? Why are things so expensive today? Why is steel so expensive?" the former governor said.


"How can America survive when half the kids in the urban districts are dropping out of school? How can America survive if we're just letting our rivers and bridges and roads go to pot, and not dealing with some of the ... things that need to be taken care of?" Sen. Voinovich said. "I don't know where the price of gas is going to go."


The state's senior senator said Americans should understand that the nation could not continue doing things the way they have been done in the past.


"We're going to have to raise more money in this country. Did you hear me? We're going to have to increase taxes in order to do the job," Sen. Voinovich said. "Anyone that tells you that's not the case isn't being truthful with you. They're not being intellectually honest with you."


That Gongwer report prompted Ohio's Democratic party today to issue this statement:


COLUMBUS - In a dramatic slap in the face to John McCain, Ohio's top Republican has called for higher federal taxes, stating that "we're going to have to increase taxes" and "anyone that tells you that's not the case isn't being truthful with you." Voinovich's remarks at yesterday's Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission forum have exposed Senator McCain's dramatic "read my lips" tax pledge for what it is, an outright lie.

"We're going to have to raise more money in this country. Did you hear me? We're going to have to increase taxes in order to do the job," Sen. Voinovich said. "Anyone that tells you that's not the case isn't being truthful with you. They're not being intellectually honest with you. [Gongwer News Service, 3/19/2008]


Senator McCain took the tax pledge in February, vowing "no new taxes" under any circumstances in a slew of high-profile television interviews.

John McCain's 'maverick' image has been dismantled by months of publicly pandering to the far right and reversing himself on critical issues ranging from taxes to illegal immigration.

"Ohio's top Republican is calling John McCain a liar when it comes to taxes, and why shouldn't he?" said Ohio Democratic Party Chairman Chris Redfern. "After all, McCain plans to spend 100 years in Iraq, and just the first five years have cost America more than $2 trillion."


30 Comments:

at 2:06 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the GOP: Higer Taxes, Bigger Government, Bailouts for Big Business, A Wreched Economy, Easdropping on Your Phonecalls and Email and 100 Years Of War in the Middle East. Can this nation survive 4 more years under these lunatics?

No wonder Bush has a 29 Percent approval rating, and only 17% say that this nation is headed in the right direction.

 
at 2:19 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Voinovich should switch parties. He is obviously more at home in the Democratic Party nowadays.

 
at 2:42 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why Republicans don't really want a McCain win. Voinovich, Taft, and McCain are all RINOs (Republican In Name Only). They say the right things to get elected, then govern from the left. This leaves people with the impression Republicanism failed, when in fact the failure is these turncoat polititians never governed as Republicans in the first place. McCain would do the same thing. We may as well elect Hillary, who at least isn't pretending to be anything other than she is. That way, it is clear who made the mess, and the water is not muddied by Democrats with an "R" by their names in the next election. If the republic survives.

 
at 2:47 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Typical wRong wingnut whackos Taxing and Spending !

Tax the middle-class so they can grant tax subsidies to the top 1% and provide corporate welfare for their cronies !

All we need to do is reverse the bush-whacko give away to those most privileged !

You know, back when the Democrats handed the wRong wingnut whackos a surplus and a balanced budget !

Remember those 'good old' conservative days ?

PATHETIC 'flip-floppers'

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE CLINTON 2008 !

 
at 3:24 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous JT said...

The budget surplus where Clinton took from Social Security? Oh yeah, I remember that. Way to move numbers around on a sheet of paper. Time to work for Enron. And a prior poster was right, there are no fiscal conservatives anymore, Republicans are now the tax and spend Dems of 20 years ago, and the Dems are even farther out. There is nobody left in this country that represents the people.

 
at 3:33 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets get out of Iraq first

 
at 3:59 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys. Guys. Guys.

Voinovich didn't mean that we have to raise taxes.

What he meant to say was that anyone who tells you that the only way to fix our problems is to raise taxes isn't being honest with you... they're just too lazy and fat to tighten their belts.

It's understandable that Georgy says things like this because it is a well-known rumor that he lost his mind years ago.

 
at 4:09 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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"... JT said...The budget surplus where Clinton took from Social Security? ...Time to work for Enron. ...there are no fiscal conservatives anymore, Republicans are now the tax and spend...3:24 PM, March 20, 2008'

Typical wRong wingnut whacko spewing the elephant dung propaganda !

SS taxes are placed in the general fund !

The wRong wingnut whackos had the chance to continue with fiscal responsibility and place the SS taxes in a seperate account, (remember the lock-box), but, instead they had their 'culture of corruption' judges appoint the 'bush-whacko' misleader that gave all the money to his military industrial complex !

We are not seduced by the foot-tapping, wRong wingnut, misleaders such as: XXX judge Triintofoolyou (JT) !

We have your IP address !

PATHETIC 'family values' !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008 !

 
at 4:39 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous JT said...

Bold: You're right, they are placed in the general fund, and it's an accounting issue that the SS surplus was used to offset everything else. Of course, you have to ignore facts and call names, but whatever works for you is fine with me. And what are you going to do with my IP address, send me a spam email? I couldn't care less. Al Gore may have invented the internet, but I don't believe he knows how to use it anymore.

 
at 5:04 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The right wing 29-percenters like JT lie everytome they open their mouths. These wingnuts listen to the likes of drug addled Rush for so many hours every day that they begin to believe their own lies.

And kool aid drinker at 3:59 appearently cannot read what Voinovich said; "We're going to have to raise more money in this country. Did you hear me? We're going to have to increase taxes in order to do the job," Sen. Voinovich said. "Anyone that tells you that's not the case isn't being truthful with you. They're not being intellectually honest with you."

What part of that isn't clear to you 3:59?

 
at 5:39 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is one conservative republican who will be glad when this old tax and spender retires. He has two choices, defeat at the ballot box or he just goes home.

 
at 6:00 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous George W. Voinovich said...

"We're going to have to raise more money in this country. Did you hear me? We're going to have to increase taxes in order to do the job," Sen. Voinovich said. "Anyone that tells you that's not the case isn't being truthful with you. They're not being intellectually honest with you."

 
at 6:39 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Mean Jean/Icky Vicky said...

We agree with Voinovich! We need to raise taxes. That's exactly what we've worked so hard to do in our years of public service.

We're Mean Jean and Icky Vicky, and we approve this message, because we know how important it is for you to pay more money to the government.

 
at 8:19 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does the Rino Voinovich wanting to raise taxes,equate to John McCain wanting to raise taxes.
McCain has stated numerous times he
wants to make the Bush tax cuts permanent and to put a lid on government spending.
Redfern must be the one drinking spiked kool aid

 
at 9:00 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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" JT said...Bold: You're right they are placed in the general fund, and it's an accounting issue that the SS surplus was used to offset everything else. Of course, you have to ignore facts and call names, but whatever works for you is fine with me. And what are you going to do with my IP address, send me a spam email? I couldn't care less. Al Gore may have invented the internet, but I don't believe he knows how to use it anymore. 4:39 PM, March 20, 2008'

Oh course we're right !

So, enlighten us on how anything placed in the general fund, as a credit, then requires anything other than a debit ?

Why don't you present the journal entries, whacko !

Once again the wRong wingnut whacko XXX judge Tryintofoolyou (JT) reveals the 'culture of corruption' by spewing the elephant dung propaganda, PERIOD !

PATHETIC 'HypocRites' !

HAD ENOUGH, VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008 !

 
at 9:44 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Voinovich may be the last honest politician - because if we don't raise taxes, Medicare, SS & inflation (not to mention foreign wars) are going to overwhelm us all.

Take your pick America - there's only 2 choices and they're both ugly!!!
No matter what Billary, Bama & McCain tell you.

 
at 9:53 PM, March 20, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Name-calling is juvenile. Can't we just stop that. No adult responds to that, do they?

Isn't going to change anyone's mind but, if it makes you feel better >> whatever! (as the kids would say)

 
at 6:45 AM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous isn't it great being a third world country said...

hooray for george voinovich. he has finally come to his senses, although i suspect its more practical accounting than it is like the grinch finding he has a heart.

there is nothing more unamerican than the no new tax philosophy preached by these right wing wackjobs. the upkeep of the commons is the responsibility of all, and indeed the greater burden should fall on those who have benefited most from the commons. that is why we have a progressive income tax.

what these right wing idiots fail to understand is that they are paying a hidden tax. this is in the form of failing infrastructure, kids not getting educated, people not living longer lives because of inadequate healthcare, mountains of debt for wars to support corporate greed, the collapse of house prices, and worst of all the erosion of the dollar in the world economy.

the republicans have been waging war against america, they have replaced patriotism with cheap metal flag pins made in china, and dialogue with 30 seconds of edited out of context sound bites and lies.

so, again, hooray for george voinovich. but it may be too little too late.

 
at 8:29 AM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently anon 5:04 didn't understand the point of 3:59.

The guy at 3:59 was using humor (in the form of sarcasm) as a literary device to make a point that there are options to raising taxes. One can also tighten the belt, make cuts etc.

Then he finishes by making a statement about Senator Voinovich's state of mind, which may or may not be true.

I am not sure if that clears things up for you, but that is my interpretation, and I laughed when I read it. I hope that was the author's intent.

 
at 9:11 AM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Voinovich has been a MAJOR disappointment to fiscal Conservative values since he arrived in DC. George soon will be retired by the voters ala...Mike Dewine.

 
at 10:57 AM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Voinovich is the biggest spender in Ohio history. More money, more money, more money. He showed us his stripes as governor, and his record continues.

 
at 11:04 AM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ham Sandwich in 2010!!!

 
at 12:45 PM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how much work could get done on the infrastructure of this country with the BILLIONS of dollars being spent in Iraq?

 
at 5:45 PM, March 21, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as we have leaders who think that the solutions involve raising MORE money rather than spending LESS, this country is DOOMED!

 
at 1:51 AM, March 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOD- THE MORE I HEAR ABOUT BUSH AND THIS DO NOTHING CONGRESS- I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO GO BEAT THE HELL OUT OF ALL THEM. I HATE GEORGE BUSH AND THIS DO NOTHING GOVERNMENT!

 
at 10:50 PM, March 22, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

We think it is time for ANON 1:51, March 22 to seek a new residence in Havana. People like him need government to guide their lives. Cuba will be just right. Bon Voyage. Don't let the door...

 
at 6:14 AM, March 23, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the money being spent should be the first question. It obviously is not being spent on the Troops and their equipment (which by the way is always being paid for whether or not they are at war)so it must be spent on things that may not even be in Iraq-maybe New Jersey. Either way the Politicos are counting on the arguing and finger pointing among ourselves as a way of distracting us from what they are doing and it doesn't matter which way your politico flag waves. If we all turned this anger and frustration in the correct direction, many things would change seemingly overnight.

 
at 1:07 PM, March 23, 2008 Blogger JimmyD said...

Voinovich is NOT Ohio's top Republican. It would require him to be a Republican in more than just name only. Sooner, rather than later, we'll get a better GOP candidate who can stand up for the average person who is already feeling the pinch of the economic woes that Voinovich talked about. So you mean to tell me that those who are already suffering are going to have to pay more? How about this idea, cut spending. Cut pork. There's lots to be had.

 
at 1:12 PM, March 23, 2008 Blogger JimmyD said...

hey anon (1:51), the do nothing Congress is Democratic, just in case you weren't aware. Note: Bush's complete lack of fiscal conservatism makes me mad too, but combine that with Dems who just want to spend our money and spread socialism, that's where you should get mad.

 
at 12:33 AM, May 24, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm, I guess we as good americans citizens should just give all the money we work for to the government and then the government can give it back to us on an "as-need" basis. Oh wait... that is Communism! I guess this is what we need now in America? What total garbage. Yep we need to give more so our great Federal Government can give out more ear marks and generally waste more of our money.

The time is coming in America where the tree of Liberty needs replenished with blood.

It is sad that it has to come to this but Dems and Reps are spending money like drunken sailors. This has to stop!!

 
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